Uber Challenge Oot3d

Everything in this challenge is possible did it myself a bit different then the original mano did. you need to start with hammer on b for this to be possible to get 40 Skulltula before dodongos.

Everything in this List is Required
- Three hearts at all times
- No Pieces of Heart or Heart Containers whatsoever
- No 20 or 30 Gold Skulltula rewards
- No Biggoron Sword
- No Capacity Upgrades
- No Dungeon Maps or Compasses
- No Fairy Ocarina from Saria
- No Fire Arrows
- No Gerudo’s Card
- No Golden Gauntlets
- No Golden Scale
- No Goron Bracelet
- No Goron Tunic
- No Iron Boots
- No Longshot
- No Magic Beans
- No Rolling Underneath Ganon
- No Silver Scale
- No Zora Tunic
- Buy the Giant’s Knife and break it upon becoming an adult and use rest of game
- Complete all dungeons
- Cannot use Megaton Hammer outside Fire Temple Boss room besides a couple Skulltula as a Child
- Can only learn Zelda’s Lullaby, Song of Time, and Minuet of Forest
- Must have the Shadow Medallion before entering the Forest Temple
- Must use Hover Boots against Ganon
- Only Magic allowed is the Magic Meter, and Light Arrows
- Only One Bottle (Kakariko Bottle) Only use Fire Temple Brown Block push and Boss Room, Jabu Jabu, Golden Skulltula, and Bottle Dive in Water Temple
- Only One Fairy Bow use, which is against Ganondorf
- Only Two Hover Boots use's, which is to get to Water Temple Boss Door and Bottle Dive in Water Temple and Lost Woods Mido skip.

- No Cheating Devices (sure they'll make one soon if they don't have one now)
- No Crooked Cartridge (if you can even do this with 3ds cartridge i wouldn't even try)

                                                                      (Shield Restrictions)
I'll Allow Shields as long as it is used for trick like Megaflips/Hover room before Gohma and Twinrova Boss Battle cannot use it to block enemy attack or anything else



Glitches used in the run and rating from 1 - 10 with 10 being the hardest to perform

ISG and Poe Hover (10 out of 10) reason for the 10 well ISG is alot harder to perform in this game Frame Perfect trick not only could this take hours to activate it you still have the poe hovering to do mess up on that then you have to start over with the isg again (first glitch used upon becoming an adult)

Megaflip + Damage Boost (6 out of 10) this depends on the person using the glitch i personally would give this 3 out of 10 i find it really easy some don't, used as a child to get over gerudo valley fence or you can cucco seam walk or seam walk and megaflip i think personally i've never tried to do this, numerous other megaflips will be used in the run as well all pretty easy

Grunz Clip (4 out of 10) Some have trouble with this some don't i find it easy rating on how others might think not myself

Hookshot Clipping (1 out of 10) this is extremely easy if you know how to do it shadow temple boss key with this may be a little harder for some as your taking damage and have three heart

New Bomb Clip (2 out of 10) used in shadow temple to skip block without longshot (made shadow temple alot easier in the challenge) easy to perform for me atleast some may have trouble

hoverslide/bombslide (5 out of 10) honestly really easy to perform but so many have trouble with this for some reason

Bottle Dive (1 out of 10) easy to do

and a couple oob tricks possibly missing a few other glitches used in the run none of the glitches listed give me much trouble find them all pretty easy then again i take this challenge everyday almost lol

yeah couple other glitches i missed to make the run faster list those later to lazy right now still writing a guide trying to make it most optimal to minimize alot of crap


I'll write a guide for this later till then feel free to post and ask question I did not write this challenge but I did do it.

I'll make a list of the skulltula you need to get soon need 40 for bombchu only possible with hammer on b before dodongos.

credit goes to

sonicrecords and mano for making the challenge's

mano for original oot almost positive sonicrecords did oot3d

here's some of the people that made it possible credit goes to them too.
crazygamenerd
aleckermit
kazooie
cloudmnintendo

and many others made this possible

i'll edit this as needed

challenge itself is fun but can be frustrating as well if you're patient with it, it can be done


   

   

                                                                       (The 40 Golden Skulltula Locations)
                                                                                     (How To Get)
                                  (the 40 are for bombchu the kid gives you and for adult wallet to buy broken giants knife later)
                                                   (used to get in dodongos cavern in main quest without goron bracelet)

Skulltulas you can get in each region before Dodongo's Cavern

Kokiri forest: 2
Lost woods: 2
Deku Tree: 4 (need hammer for one in the tree)
Lon Lon Ranch: 4
Hyrule Castle Area: 2
Kakariko Village: 7 (including the two in the graveyard)
Death Mountain Trail: 2 (one behide cavern can be got before blowing it up did it myself a couple times but not needed as it would be 41)(need hammer for one here before exit to kakariko village)
Goron City: 1 (need hammer for this one)
Death Mountain Crater: 1 (need hammer to get to crater)
Zora's River: 2
Zora's Fountain: 2
Lake Hylia: 3
Jabu Jabu's Belly: 4
Gerudo Valley: 2        
Bottom Of The Well: 3                  

only four hammer uses after that you can equipped a sword cannot get 40 before dodongos without hammer why you need hammer on b to start the challenge. collecting may be a pain but challenge itself is pretty fun and frustrating at times.

                      here's how to get the skulltula i'll include them in child guide on how to get them with minimal backtracking

Kokiri Forest Skulltula:

(Skulltula in soil behide shop)(Day/Night) Required Items: bottle of bugs and something to kill it with sword/hammer whatever anything that will kill it obviously

Simply stand over the soil and drop the bugs then kill the skulltula and collect token.

(Skulltula behide know-it all brothers house)(Night Only) Required Items: something to kill it with sword etc

Simply kill it and jumpslash or backflip to get the token.

Lost Woods Skulltula:

(Both are in Soil)(Day/Night) Required Items: Bottle of Bugs and obviously something to kill it with going to stop typing that obviously need to kill them if you don't get that by now this game is not for you.

For the First skulltula go left twice from the beginning of lost woods and drop bugs on soil and kill.

For the Second skulltula from the beginning of lost woods go Right Left Right Left Left soil will be next to a deku scrub drop bugs kill skulltula and collect

Deku Tree Skulltula:

(First Skulltula) Required Items: Slingshot/Hammer/Nothing and Just to kill Skulltula

From the beginning of the tree make your way to the top and enter the door at the top you'll be in a room with a dekubaba and a skulltula as well as the golden skulltula behide the hanging skulltula you'll see the golden skulltula kill it and collect.
for the skullwalltula on the vine before you make it to the top just use the hammer on the wall all should come crashing down and die or slingshot them hammer is just faster or you can climb the vine with them on the vine with the chance of getting pushed off so hammer wins by a long shot.

Rest of skulltula are in the basement

(For the Second and Third Skulltula) Required Items: Slingshot

as normal from high up jump on the web and you will fall in the basement kill the skulltula on the vine with slingshot climb the vine a little and get token drop back down and turn around third skulltula will be on the water grate/bar whatever slingshot it and kill it get on the ledge jump towards the token and collect

(For the Last skulltula in tree) Required Items: Boomerang/Bombs/Hammer since you won't have bombs at this point you'll use the Hammer

First off there is Three ways to get to this Skulltula You can go all the way around like a retard sorry for the language and waste time or you can use this video here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNH-DF-LJY or you can savewarp and use this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Oo12_vS9I

but after you make it on the ledge enter the hole you will see a torch on fire use a deku stick on it and run to the web with the rock wall and break the wall with the hammer enter the door golden skulltula will be on the wall near the door slingshot kill it or boomerang kill it and collect token with boomerang.

Lon Lon Ranch Skulltula:

info soon




                             

                                                                                (Child Link Guide)
                                                               This is what the child section will look like.


1. Inside The Deku Tree
2. Inside Jabu Jabu's Belly
3. Dodongo's Cavern
4. Spirit Temple
5. Temple Of Time/Adult

could be months before a guide is here still have to type it up separate then optimize it and things could likely change especially things like early bombchus which is unlikely


here's an idea of the child route didn't take my time writing this or fully testing i'll update to make it better later i think the route is good might need a few tweaks here and there though might of missed something

Kokori Sword
GC escape
GC skulltula #1 50 rupee chest
Exit GC to DMT
Break rocks leading to DMC then head to Kakariko Village just before exit to village break wall
Get Cucco Bottle and Bugs
Enter Guard House Kill Skulltula in crate #2
Head to Castle get Weird Egg and Roll into tree and kill Skulltula #3
Get Zeldas Letter and Lullaby
Head to Zoras River Kill Skulltula #4 and #5
Save Warp
Buy Shield equip Sword and Shield
Kokori GS #6 and #7
Deku Tree get Slingshot, Deku Nuts and Deku Stick on the way to Tree and Deku Tree GS #8 #9 and #10 Kokori Emerald
Save Warp for Navi Dive soon
Head to Lost Woods get GS #11 #12
Navi Dive to Zoras River and head to Lake Hylia long way to go(would be different if i allowed Fairy Ocarina) but this is low% uber kinda :P
Lake Hylia GS #13 #14 #15
Navi Dive to Zoras Domain Make Sure It's Night before this
Catch Fish in Bottle and TSC past King Zoras
Jabu Jabu GS #16 #17 #18 Kill Mini Boss lower the Platform Thing
Save Warp Exit Jabu Jabu
Zoras Foutain GS #19 #20
Enter Jabu Jabu again get last Jabu GS #21 and Zoras Sapphire (reason I had you exit cause sometimes it's Morning for some reason after beating Jabu you'd lose a GS that appears at night in Fountain that can only be got with Boomerang and time doesn't change in Fountain you'd have to go to Lake Hylia again and Navi Dive)

Save Warp Lost Woods Navi Dive (easier if i allowed ocarina from saria but can't exit Forest to Hyrule Field can go to Forest from Hyrule Field though won't get ocarina cutsence
Head to Lon Lon Ranch get GS #22 #23 #24 #25 (you should get to lon lon just before night)
Head to Gerudo Valley get GS #26 and #27 (should be able to get these just before day if your fast enough so you dont have to wait till night again)
Save Warp head to DMT through GC and from DMT head to DMC and get GS #28
Back to DMT head to where HP is on top of Dodongos Cavern don't get HP go towards entrance to cavern don't fall off Drop Bugs jump down and kill GS with Spin Attack or Crouch Stab then the Tricky part get Token #29 with Boomerang behide the rock blocking Cavern it's possible i've done it not to hard if you know how to do it right (Hint Throw Boomerang from sign Between the rock and the Goron and Sidehop make sure
Make sure It doesn't hit the rock or wall on other side)
Last DMT GS on the way to Kakariko Village #30
Kakariko Village GS #31 #32 #33 #34 #35
Head to Graveyard get GS #36 #37
Navi Dive or Cucco to BOTW get GS #38 #39 #40
Save Warp leave Well
Go in Skulltula House get Adult Wallet/Bombchu AVOID GIANT WALLET AND SHARD OF AGONY OR WHATEVER END OF SKULLTULA HUNT YAY
Head To Dodongos Cavern avoid burning Deku Shield because you can Megaflip to Bomb Bag and will need soon after, Goron Ruby
Head to Hyrule Castle and get Ocarina of Time
Make your way to Gerudo Valley and to Spirit Temple I am sure anyone doing this Challenge knows how to do all this stuff
Spirit Temple Silver Gauntlets and Mirror Shield
Save Warp and exit through GC
Leave GC and get Magic
Take Owl to Kakariko Village and head to Hyrule Castle
Master Sword Equip Mirror Shield time for Poe Hover yay add Adult later I'll allow shields as long as it's only used for megaflips/hover

I'll detail the route later if needed and could be changed around the zora river/forest part but i think going to river and save warping is alot better dont have to wait after deku tree

                                                                              (Adult Link Guide)
                                                               Here's What Adult Section Will Look Like


1.Shadow Temple
2.Fire Temple (Only other time you're allowed to use a Bottle 2 fairys to complete the temple and 1 to get in unless you're lucky. room before boss room conveniently has fairy's near the Hookshot post, room where you meet Darunia.)(only allowed to use fairy in boss room cause you'll need without Goron Tunic so you'll have to two cycle Volvagia with Hookshot and a room where you have to push a block to get up to the next floor.)(more on this later when I actually write the guide)
3.Forest Temple
4.Water Temple
5.Spirit Temple Finish
6.Ganon's Castle
7.Credits

Guide Soon

Frequently Asked Question

info soon

Why exactly does one need to enter DC early?

Norkix wrote

Why exactly does one need to enter DC early?

no Goron bracelet was part of the original uber challenge so it should be the same for this as well since it's possible.

or you can get the goron bracelet would save alot of skulltula hunting imo I think it would defeat the purpose of the challenge getting the bracelet

even though you get silver gauntlets soon after so your choice what to skip hunting an extra 30 skulltula and get bracelet go ahead does save

time still defeats the purpose of the challenge need bombchu to get in dc to skip goron only way for that in main quest is 40 skulltula unless

something else pops up don't exactly need to get in dodongos early just need another way of skipping goron bracelet besides 40 skulltula

Updated with child route undetailed for now and one less song.

just missing one last thing that will totally require me to update alot (bombchu without the excessive amount of GS Tokens) other then that i think i am done updating the restriction list till bombchu is found (unlikely if not impossible) never know though i've tried alot myself but nothing

In order to do the Mido skip you will need to use the hoverboots to do the doomjump. Also, I'm not sure if you can unload the lost woods after you get on top of one of those tunnels without a hoverslide. A megaflip probably works, but so far I've only been successful with hoverslides. Anyways you should add another hoverboots use to when you do the Mido skip.

For the Mido slip, you can jump over to the wooden cover next to the one you land on after the doomjump and megaflip from there.

benstephens1000 wrote

In order to do the Mido skip you will need to use the hoverboots to do the doomjump. Also, I'm not sure if you can unload the lost woods after you get on top of one of those tunnels without a hoverslide. A megaflip probably works, but so far I've only been successful with hoverslides. Anyways you should add another hoverboots use to when you do the Mido skip.

you can just roll over the tunnel you land on with hover boots no need for a hoverslide :P but yeah megaflip works too but i will change it to another hover boots use since you actually need to use boots to get on the tunnel to skip mido

you also have the option to skip dodongos skulltula behide rocks for last deku skulltula but that requires second trip to deku with the boomerang
and keeping the hammer on b a bit longer

was thinking of slingshot skip but of course need it to pass first room of jabu also would req both deku tree skulltula behide rock wall and dodongos since i dont think you can get the skulltula on tall tower at night in kakariko village with boomerang

How are you supposed to kill Phantom Ganon without Fairy Bow? A few other rules seem stupid as well, like only being able to use hovers in a few circumstances. This doesn't look fun, its just making the game ridiculously difficult. I'd recommend thinking hard about what would make this as fun as the original.

Norkix wrote

How are you supposed to kill Phantom Ganon without Fairy Bow?

This should be put in the "noob moments that made you want to cry" thread. An epitome of a zelda nerd doesnt know that PG can be hurt with hookshot :'(

Also the idea of this thread wasnt to make oot 3d a fun game :P

The original Uber Challenge was supposed to push the limits of the game. It was challenging but fun. This just looks plain hard. That's just my opinion, I'm entitled to it. I'll stop posting here if you don't like my constructive criticism.

This is my first post here so i dunno why you react like that.

Norkix wrote

The original Uber Challenge was supposed to push the limits of the game. It was challenging but fun. This just looks plain hard. That's just my opinion, I'm entitled to it. I'll stop posting here if you don't like my constructive criticism.

there is nothing hard about this challenge i take it everyday only thing hard or actually takes time is poe hovering isg shadow early the rest is simple after that and besides if you think this is hard it is an uber challenge afterall not suppose to be easy :P

i can make a seperate more fun guide later i thinki it's pretty fun already just need to isg/poe hover practice a bit more rest is a piece of cake :P

heres a seperate list of restrictions easier shit for the noobs :P


- Three hearts at all times
- No Pieces of Heart or Heart Containers whatsoever
- No 20 or 30 Gold Skulltula rewards
- No Biggoron Sword
- No Capacity Upgrades
- No Dungeon Maps or Compasses
- No Fire Arrows
- No Gerudo’s Card
- No Golden Gauntlets
- No Golden Scale
- No Goron Bracelet
- No Goron Tunic
- No Iron Boots
- No Magic Beans
- No Silver Scale
- No Zora Tunic
- Buy the Giant’s Knife and break it upon becoming an adult and use rest of game
- Complete all dungeons
- Cannot use Megaton Hammer outside Fire Temple Boss room
- Can only learn Zelda’s Lullaby, Song of Time, Nocturne of Shadows, Saria’s Song, and Minuet of Forest
- Only Magic allowed is the Magic Meter, Light Arrows, and Dins Fire can only use entering Shadow Temple and Spell Dive in Water Temple
- Only One Bottle (Kakariko Bottle) Use Only in Fire Temple, For Jabu Jabu, And Some Skulltula
- Must Kill Dark Link Obviously need Longshot if Skipping Shadow Early not a requirement in the Harder Version cause the bow shit lol Noobie Section Water Temple is longer then Harder Section



- No Cheating Devices (sure they'll make one soon if they don't have one now)
- No Crooked Cartridge (if you can even do this with 3ds cartridge i wouldn't even try)

took out quite a few rules i'll figure out what to do later about shadow early without poe hover also means getting the song

amazed how small the rule list looks now hope i didn't miss anything lol

unfortunately i have to take out no longshot for noobie route and remove shadow before forest so route would be fire forest water shadow spirit

child route will be a bit longer but about the same as before just getting sarias song during the lost woods skulltula for mido later well might be shorter since i took out no fairy ocarina as well

have fun noobies alot easier seeing as i removed no goron tunic as well although should put that back in so you have atleast something hard to do fire no gorons and hookshoting the boss so you can two cycle it before you die :P EDITED NO GORON TUNIC BACK IN LOOKED TO EASY WITHOUT IT

how's the list now norkix :P

for the people who want a real challenge the first post list is for you. HAVEN'T FULLY TESTED ADULT ROUTE IN NOOBIE SECTION BUT IT SHOULD WORK

I'll update more and add it in as an optional more easy challenge once i test. THIS IS CHANGING ALOT SOON

I didn't say it had to be easy, I said it had to be fun. It didn't look fun, although if you say it is in practice I will take your word for it. I might do it if I ever find my 3DS

Sorry if you thought i was trolling *cough Pedalpowertoast cough* i didn't mean it that way, I was trying to be constructive.

nothing wrong with the harder challenge other then the poe hover that can take 4 mins - days.

So I noticed a slight inconsistency with this challenge. It says that you have to break the Giant's Knife upon becoming adult and use it for the rest of the game. That doesn't work with the Poe Hover since Link will not be able to use his shield with it out; he has to use the Master Sword for it.

Edit: I reread and I noticed that you say equip master sword, lol.

And also I got ISG to work 5 times today ;) ; I'm trying to develop a setup for it.

Fox if you did that I'd either hate you or love you depending on the setup...

Why no Fire Temple as a child? You could skip the hammer as an adult that way.

czar I have never actually tried fire temple as a child, and I am pretty sure there is a problem with that anyways. if you can two cycle volvagia as a child this might work. 3 hearts the whole time only enough time to two cycle with a fairy, but yeah if fire temple child 3 hearts is possible I might add that if it doesn't mess with anything else but as far as I know it's not possible.

NEVERMIND IT WON'T WORK YOU NEED TSC FOR 3 SKULLTULA

do have a idea for getting into dodongos without the 40 skulltula though but it will be way to hard lol

LttpMmOot wrote

do have a idea for getting into dodongos without the 40 skulltula though but it will be way to hard lol

And what might that idea be?

LttpMmOot wrote

czar I have never actually tried fire temple as a child, and I am pretty sure there is a problem with that anyways. if you can two cycle volvagia as a child this might work. 3 hearts the whole time only enough time to two cycle with a fairy, but yeah if fire temple child 3 hearts is possible I might add that if it doesn't mess with anything else but as far as I know it's not possible.

NEVERMIND IT WON'T WORK YOU NEED TSC FOR 3 SKULLTULA

I know it's possible because people have done it before. I don't know how to do it myself, as there's no section here on how to do it, so I can't really test myself to see how little stuff you can do it with.

If you get Din's Fire, then you only need TSC for 2 skulltula, and you already need it for the Shadow Temple Boss Key.

Nope you skip shadow boss key so no you do not get Din's Fire...

ok czar, you didn't read the restrictions you do not get dins, even if you did get dins you still need tsc which gets rid of hammer on b so you can't kill volvagia . can't get to fire temple/volvagia as a child unless you have bombs or bombchus can't get neither with the goron bracelet restriction, only way to get bombs/bombchus is the 40 skulltula which again can't get 40 with hammer on b still to get to fire temple/kill volvagia. even if there was a better way for bombchus i'm not even sure you can two cycle volvagia as a child anyways.

@ben the idea is way out of the question unless you can isg with a deku stick let alone have a tektite kill you as you jumpslash on a heart with farores on b then using this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=monxoBQuQ80&feature=related and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FinbeKWefgQ then FW WW to spirit temple but i've tried that oob into fairy fountain on 3ds version it doesn't work. if this did work then you can get bombchus in spirit temple and silver gauntlets without goron bracelet, 40 skulltula for this challenge

but both things are impossible the idea and the volvagia thing.

czar i run this uber challenge alot i know whats possible and what isn't so if you think you can do your idea go for it :p but read the restrictions carefully, volvagia as a child is possible but not in this challenge

benstephens1000 wrote

Nope you skip shadow boss key so no you do not get Din's Fire...

I see nothing on the Shadow Temple page here... How?

Are there any restrictions on how you're allowed to kill Iron Knuckles? And when TSCing to BotW, is there a specific way you're supposed to go (Navi Dive/OoB by graveyard/OoB by DMT)?

you can kill iron knuckles anyways you'd like as long as you are not using master sword or bow. and you don't get dins at all no magic except light arrows for ganondorf and the magic meter you can get shadow temple boss key without dins and you can get botw skulltula anyways you'd like as long as you don't get song of storms

just read the restrictions more carefully i said only magic is meter and light arrows. obviously means no dins since dins uses magic

whenever i have a solid recording device i'll do a uber challenge run and post the video here. really good at everything and the run shouldn't take to long nothing that hard

if you want original oot uber challenge then look it up this is for 3ds version just so you know, this is considerably harder for some people lol

LttpMmOot wrote

just read the restrictions more carefully i said only magic is meter and light arrows. obviously means no dins since dins uses magic

I read your restrictions more carefully already. I didn't say you can't skip Din's Fire (in my last post), I asked how. All the Shadow Temple page here lists are two ways to clip through the fence in the ferry room.

there is only one way in this challenge and thats with a bomb if you had a longshot then you can get through the gate a bit easier but this challenges skips the longshot.

since you obviously don't know alot of glitches about this game why do you even post here if you plan on taking this challenge do more research