TP: Question & Answer / Trick Help

I've gotten alot of Youtube & Twitch messages asking for help with the same tricks, so post any questions you have related to this game here.

Youtube channels with trick demonstration/tutorials:

http://www.youtube.com/LogitechSDAZ
http://www.youtube.com/Mofat
http://www.youtube.com/ZSRVideos
http://www.youtube.com/ingx32

hey you forgot mine D:

http://www.youtube.com/ingx32

I have a question about how cutscenes and loading works in TP. When you activate a cutscene, does the area you're in become temporarily and partially unloaded? The reason I am wondering is because while I've been running the Forest Temple, every once in a while after a cutscene has been activated (the kind you can't skip like opening a door or blowing up a bombable wall) if I try to move immediately, I'll hear/see Link do a jump on normally level ground.

im not sure, but that may be the case. i suck at speedrunnig TP but im going to get the GCN version soon

Razor7581 wrote

I have a question about how cutscenes and loading works in TP. When you activate a cutscene, does the area you're in become temporarily and partially unloaded? The reason I am wondering is because while I've been running the Forest Temple, every once in a while after a cutscene has been activated (the kind you can't skip like opening a door or blowing up a bombable wall) if I try to move immediately, I'll hear/see Link do a jump on normally level ground.

You're not talking about the room right before Diababa are you? Because that's link trying to roll and Midna auto stopping him, but the 'sound' of him rolling gets activated.

Pheenoh wrote

You're not talking about the room right before Diababa are you? Because that's link trying to roll and Midna auto stopping him, but the 'sound' of him rolling gets activated.

No, I've had this happen in the second room of the Forest Temple, on the stairs going to the outside portion for early gale boomerang, and once when I was walking through a door and Link did a weird hop.

hmm... it might be that the romm is unloaded and link has to jump to avoid falling oob ???
Edit:would wii be better for 100% because of the walking on cielings without iron boots thing on wii only or am I trippin?

No, theres no LJA.

ok

flameringer0629 wrote

No, theres no LJA.

There is LJA, you just can't do it off Gale Boomerang because the targeting breaks when the sword is drawn. Regardless, Wii version is still slower for all categories, except probably Goron Mines ILs.

Yeah forgot about those LJA methods :P

Hello, i'm a new TP runner, and i've make a lot of try(15 hours) on the S&S Skip, and that's always doesn works, 2 little videos , can you help me please?(the second is on my 2nd and useless Twitch channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPDfiRfdztc

http://www.twitch.tv/syk_tv/b/459922875

For the precision, i've see mofat & ingx Tutorial ;) (but i can't make it TT_TT)

Thank you :D

Zelkys wrote

Hello, i'm a new TP runner, and i've make a lot of try(15 hours) on the S&S Skip, and that's always doesn works, 2 little videos , can you help me please?(the second is on my 2nd and useless Twitch channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPDfiRfdztc

http://www.twitch.tv/syk_tv/b/459922875

For the precision, i've see mofat & ingx Tutorial ;) (but i can't make it TT_TT)

Thank you :D

Time your second jump a little later and make sure you're directly up next to the bulblin when you do the first back hop, otherwise you'll be too far away to get the correct speed/distance in time.

Thank's a lot, i've made it after you're answer, thanks a lot :)

hey, whats the ideal 300 rupees to get in any%?

Holden wrote

hey, whats the ideal 300 rupees to get in any%?

You need to pay 300 rupees to Fyer for him to repair the cannon you use to enter City in the Sky.

EDIT: I'm sorry I misread your comment. You should practice getting the rupees on the tree tops during the snowboarding to SPR as you can get about 100 rupees during this part. There is also a Bubble you can kill with the Ball and Chain at the entrance of SPR which will drop a orange rupee. According to Chaoslink, if you swing the B&C the Bubble won't drop the rupee (at least not consistently) so throw it twice instead. After you get the Ball and Chain either Ooccoo out and re-enter or save warp and re-enter. The statue is the second one to the left in the first room. You can also get 50 rupees from a chest in Arbiter's right before the Bulblin fight. Furthermore, kill all ReDeads to get 80 rupees in Arbiter's Grounds. These methods should be excellent to reach the 300 mark.

thanks

hey,

sometimes i don't jump over the fence in the zombie hover for gorge skip

am i not mashing B fast enough or is it something else?

it feels so random whether i jump over it or not...

Holden wrote

hey,

sometimes i don't jump over the fence in the zombie hover for gorge skip

am i not mashing B fast enough or is it something else?

it feels so random whether i jump over it or not...

It's a frame rule; you have to hit b on a set of specific frames to get over. You just have to mash fast on the area where you slide over and hope you get it.

If you mash fast enough you'll get it basically every time. Occasionally you can still miss it even mashing 15 times per second, but it's very, very rare. 10 per second or so should get you over at least 90% of the time.

Bokoblin pushing is really hard for me. It's the bane of my existence.

What's the secret to doing it consistently? I can usually push one to about halfway to the bird shop, but then he circles around me one way or the other, and I can't regain control and I just lose it.

Are there speed differences if you run the gamecube version on the gamecube or wii? I'm not talking about the GCN/Wii version of the game, but about running the GCN version on Wii.
Thanks :)

Depending on how new/old the Wii is the loading times are faster. 2006-2009 ones are slower than 2010-2013 ones afaik. No clue if the Family Edition or Wii Mini are faster/slower.

Is it legit to speedrun on Wii then? And what device do TP runners play on? Or doesn't it matter actually, because i'm really interested in learning to speedrun TP.
Thanks for the answer tho

Yea it's legit, forcing people to buy a Gamecube would be shitty. I think most people use Wii.

Hi! I'm learning TP No S + Q and I'm having a little trouble with the bokoblins at the beginning of the game. I can push them fine all the way to the blue bird's shop(I forget his name), but when I push them in and try to go around and make the bird hit them, about 75% of the time they keep clipping back out and running up towards the wooden cage near the entrance to the forest temple. Is there any way to prevent this from constantly happening? Any help is appreciated.

gymnast86 wrote

Hi! I'm learning TP No S + Q and I'm having a little trouble with the bokoblins at the beginning of the game. I can push them fine all the way to the blue bird's shop(I forget his name), but when I push them in and try to go around and make the bird hit them, about 75% of the time they keep clipping back out and running up towards the wooden cage near the entrance to the forest temple. Is there any way to prevent this from constantly happening? Any help is appreciated.

Try to wait shortly before pressing up next to the bokoblin; pushing against him immediately tends to make him pop out of the shop more from my experience. Where you push him into the shop is also important, because he can pass through the ropes (or whatever they are) more easily in some spots, or worse the game can softlock. Try pushing him in and waiting and observing him. When done right, he should get stuck in the corner and grind in place. When you push up against him, push up left (or more specifically, away from the rope where you pushed him in). This will make Trill attack faster and lessen the chance he will pop out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQ79QjPB9c

I'm trying to do this glitch, but it is so hard for 240 quality.

when I LJA to the ledge, I can't even get double jump attack like he did in the video.
I know how to do the LJA, but how does he manage to do a jump attack?

I tried double tapping A, tried hold L and tapping A, tried tapping them both... I did this while in midair and after I smacked the wall.
He says there's a paradox0 video...not on youtube!

KingOfHeart wrote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMQ79QjPB9c

I'm trying to do this glitch, but it is so hard for 240 quality.

when I LJA to the ledge, I can't even get double jump attack like he did in the video.
I know how to do the LJA, but how does he manage to do a jump attack?

I tried double tapping A, tried hold L and tapping A, tried tapping them both... I did this while in midair and after I smacked the wall.
He says there's a paradox0 video...not on youtube!

Mash B after the LJA until the bomb boost.
http://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/tp/world/faron-province

The video you are referring to is not on Paraxade0's channel. It is on his old youtube channel MrP0tter. He got on the ledge without a bomb boost. It is very difficult to pull off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OxiIYx3Yv4

Ahh, he was MrP0tter.

Figured out it was B...I need to try it non-bombs.