Individual Dungeon Segment Runs

Hey guys.  I'm new to speedrunning and as it is a bit daunting to tackle the whole game I thought I'd go ahead and try to time myself just for the time it takes to beat single dungeons; maybe some of you would like to try and put up your times on here.  By saving outside a dungeon you can run it multiple times and try to improve your time.

Some rules:
-You can use any item that you could conceivably have by the time you get to that dungeon
      -the exceptions are that you can't use items found in dungeons (ie upgraded sword, tunics, hylian shield)
-Time starts the moment you enter the dungeon and ends the moment you get the pendant/portrait (for Eastern Palace its the moment you leave the dungeon)

So far I've only tried a couple runs of Eastern Palace and a practice run of House of Gales

My best time for Eastern Palace currently is 6:27 (there is lots of room to improve here obviously)

Hey! I'm new to speedrunning, too. Congratulations on the time! Be proud of that, and continue to improve it. I'll be sure to post my times, here, too, when I get around to it.

Thanks! Just got 6:07 ;D
EDIT: EP 6:02

After I realized you could skip the cut scene after killing the boss and a few attempts I got 5:32.

The any% route that tdutchnick96 made is very useful for the first three dungeons.Especially if you're lazy like me and you don't feel like
going through the entire dungeon just to find the quickest way to beat it...

What do you count as being the end to Eastern Palace?

mzxrules wrote

What do you count as being the end to Eastern Palace?

I figured the moment when You exit the dungeon and before Link starts the dialog with Sahasrahla.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong)

doommaker wrote

After I realized you could skip the cut scene after killing the boss and many attempts I got 5:32.

The any% route that tdutchnick96 made is very useful for the first three dungeons.Especially if you're lazy like me and you don't feel like
going through the entire dungeon just to find the quickest way to beat it...

How do you skip the cut scene?

mzxrules wrote

What do you count as being the end to Eastern Palace?

The moment you leave the dungeon.

Teague wrote

How do you skip the cut scene?
The moment you leave the dungeon.

You press start during the cut scene and a "skip" button will appear on the bottom screen.

Thanks.

People probably already know this but if you stand here in EP you cant hit the switch in the top left.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/4q8y6xcpffdbwsn/ZSEY4PdeFK

Just did EP in 4:40.  I skipping the cutscene obviously saves a lot of time.  That and I was doing a 2 whole rooms for no reason.

So, I just got 4:29.86 for EP, and the Stalfos fight was a little bad. The Yuga fight can be improved too. I'll try and make a video of a faster time later.

EDIT: New record! 4:27.34! Yuga was good, and stalfos were decent. Everywhere else went quite well. Happy with this one, but I'll still need to beat this on a recording :/

Hornlitz wrote

So, I just got 4:29.86 for EP, and the Stalfos fight was a little bad. The Yuga fight can be improved too. I'll try and make a video of a faster time later.

EDIT: New record! 4:27.34! Yuga was good, and stalfos were decent. Everywhere else went quite well. Happy with this one, but I'll still need to beat this on a recording :/

I'm like 6 seconds off of you every time and I think it's the method used to kill yuga.

doommaker wrote

I'm like 6 seconds off of you every time and I think it's the method used to kill yuga.

When do you start the timer? I start it right after the triforce disappears on the loading screen entering EP, so maybe some of the time lost is when you start your timer.

Hornlitz wrote

When do you start the timer? I start it right after the triforce disappears on the loading screen entering EP, so maybe some of the time lost is when you start your timer.

I started doing it as soon as the triforce disappears

Managed 4:29 on EP, thats with a few small mistakes.  In the room with all the ledges and the arrows flying at you, you can actually walk past the enemy that pops up to guard the switch.  It's easy to fall of but its very doable.  The fastest way to beat the skeletons seems to be 1 arrow shot then 1 sword swing; if you duck down quickly as soon as you enter that room, the skeleton on the ledge should jump down so you don't have to go up and get him.  Other thing is Yuga.  It's easier to hit her from across the room but if you can managed to it her closer up you'll save a second or two everytime you go up to slash her.

House of Gales I just did in 7:10. I used bombs in that to hit some switches but the ice rod works too (and probably better).  I need a better strategy for the boss here because it takes forever to beat...

Hornlitz wrote

When do you start the timer? I start it right after the triforce disappears on the loading screen entering EP, so maybe some of the time lost is when you start your timer.

As soon as I get control of link which would put me about a second or so ahead of the way you do it,meaning I'm about 7 seconds behind you,at least now I know.

I think I just need to keep running and get a better routine for the boss/stalfos.

Small tip on Yuga, on the fifth cycle you can just shoot another arrow at him to kill him instead of stunning him and then running around to slash.

Is it okay to post timesavers/skips in this thread? If so, I have something to show.

I have found a timesaver and a skip in the House of Gales. You can see them by checking out my video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmegAzoOWr4
They're easy to pull off and should definitely help on time.

Also-- I'm not sure as to what is quicker. For the skip, you can instead use the Tornado Rod instead of the Hookshot. Which is faster, though, I don't know.

Paraxade wrote

Small tip on Yuga, on the fifth cycle you can just shoot another arrow at him to kill him instead of stunning him and then running around to slash.

I discovered this right before you posted lol Idk why I didn't think of it before,very helpful,thank you ^_^

4:28 with bad stalfos.When do you guys stop the timer?

Vortex wrote

Is it okay to post timesavers/skips in this thread? If so, I have something to show.

I have found a timesaver and a skip in the House of Gales. You can see them by checking out my video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmegAzoOWr4
They're easy to pull off and should definitely help on time.

Also-- I'm not sure as to what is quicker. For the skip, you can instead use the Tornado Rod instead of the Hookshot. Which is faster, though, I don't know.

I definitely think that hookshot is gonna be faster, even if you have to jumble through menus.  As for the first skip, the tornado rod method is about a half second faster.

Vortex wrote

Is it okay to post timesavers/skips in this thread? If so, I have something to show.

I have found a timesaver and a skip in the House of Gales. You can see them by checking out my video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmegAzoOWr4
They're easy to pull off and should definitely help on time.

I've been using the first trick for a while now, just haven't done any runs for HoG yet to show it off. Also, for that first one, you don't need to hit the button after you get off the moving platforms :P
For the second one, instead of using the hookshot, could we just use the Pegasus Momentum glitch to get across the gap to the platform above the key and then just merge over to the key? Would that be faster?

doommaker wrote

I discovered this right before you posted lol Idk why I didn't think of it before,very helpful,thank you ^_^

4:28 with bad stalfos.When do you guys stop the timer?

I stop the timer basically right as link touches the loading zone to exit the temple.



Also, I did another EP speedrun, and well... I got 4:18.49. I missed with one arrow, but aside from that, most everything was godly. I feel like the method I use for Yuga is slow, but I'm not sure. For my method, the fight was basically perfect. The Stalfos were insanely good.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfCkiFKgS_U

Hornlitz wrote

For the second one, instead of using the hookshot, could we just use the Pegasus Momentum glitch to get across the gap to the platform above the key and then just merge over to the key? Would that be faster?

No-- the momentum glitch doesn't allow you to reach that far. However, from that same platform, facing diagonal, you can run and hop the gap and land on the other platform.
(Not sure if this would ever be used in a run. I doubt it.)
Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKqE3Is0Gfk&feature=youtu.be

Vortex wrote

No-- the momentum glitch doesn't allow you to reach that far. However, from that same platform, facing diagonal, you can run and hop the gap and land on the other platform.
(Not sure if this would ever be used in a run. I doubt it.)
Video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKqE3Is0Gfk&feature=youtu.be

Actually, yes you can make the gap with the pegasus momentum glitch. I've done it numerous times, however, it is mildly difficult. But if you can just jump across, then that would be faster.

Hornlitz wrote

Actually, yes you can make the gap with the pegasus momentum glitch. I've done it numerous times, however, it is mildly difficult. But if you can just jump across, then that would be faster.

Holy smokes! You can?! Oh wow, that's crazy! Okay, that method may be faster.

There no way that glitch is faster.  You already have to go down the ramp and hit the switch for the key to appear.  By using the hookshot you are already going to be standing near the door quick you have to go out.  If you use the pegasus boots you are going to end up farther away from where you are headed.

Teague wrote

There no way that glitch is faster.  You already have to go down the ramp and hit the switch for the key to appear.  By using the hookshot you are already going to be standing near the door quick you have to go out.  If you use the pegasus boots you are going to end up farther away from where you are headed.

I guess you do have a point there. However, in the Any% and 100% routes, we shouldn't have the hookshot or boomerang by that point, so that version of the trick can only be done on IL runs I guess.

Hornlitz wrote

I guess you do have a point there. However, in the Any% and 100% routes, we shouldn't have the hookshot or boomerang by that point, so that version of the trick can only be done on IL runs I guess.

Why wouldn't we in the Any% route?  I've been picking up large rupees shortly out of the way in order to get all the items as soon as they are available. The hookshot is useful in 2 places in the House of Gales so I definitely think it's necessary (the second thing is it lets you grab the key surrounded by fire.

Teague wrote

There no way that glitch is faster.  You already have to go down the ramp and hit the switch for the key to appear.  By using the hookshot you are already going to be standing near the door quick you have to go out.  If you use the pegasus boots you are going to end up farther away from where you are headed.

Ah, wrong. For any% runs, you won't need to head through that door. According to CloudMax, he has founded a glitch that allows you to skip to the 3rd floor. So, by grabbing that key with the hookshot/tornado rod, we can use it to go straight to the boss door, rather than completing the 3rd floor.

Only did 3 runs of HoG, but so far my record is 7:17.8. It's pretty meh. That 3rd floor is always the killer. Especially the room with the burning skulls. Does anyone have any tips for that room?

Vortex wrote

Only did 3 runs of HoG, but so far my record is 7:17.8. It's pretty meh. That 3rd floor is always the killer. Especially the room with the burning skulls. Does anyone have any tips for that room?

Grab the 2 keys on the 2nd floor and skip one of the second floor locked doors then we won't have to even do this room but... the best way as I posted earlier to beat this room is to immeadiately head towards the left wall, jump down the cliff and pegasus boots to the end of the way.  You should see like 8 out of the 9 skulls all gathered up at once and if you time it right you'll get most of them to fall into the crevass.  The last one you have to go hunt down.

Just did Tower of Hera in 4:09, nearly perfectly.  No real glitches used here just good timing on the jump blocks.  You have like 2 seconds to do things like shoot an arrow or grab a key after you hammer a block before it shoots back up.  The pegasus boots momentum trick can be used to get to the platform faster in the room where you get the boss key.  The boss is straigtforward, seems to always head towards you, just move aside and hit his tail as his parts move away.