"Max% Adult" - a fun challenge

Will0 wrote

And what bottle would you be using for B exactly?  :P

I see no reason why you can't get the bottle from catching Big Poes.

EDIT: I just read the first post and...

Cosmo wrote

- BA is impossible thanks to no possibility of ever getting a bottle

I still don't understand what is stopping you from getting that bottle, though.

EDIT2: Nevermind, petrie911 kindly told me that I need a bottle to catch the Big Poes in in the first place. I can't believe I overlooked that; I feel like an idiot.

EDIT3: Holy shit, somebody already asked this very question in this topic. I'm so gud.

I have now very close to get everything what I can get in this challenge and cosmo I have 55 skultulas on my quest status screen. I don't know what you or somebody else have missed. I have got all hearts 14 3/4 hearts but not that shadow temple one yet.

I can make list of skulltulas later if you want. Btw you should update your first post about jiano trick to beat shadow temple :)

I'm working on a speedrun route for this. Here is what I have so far (far from complete):

Segment 0
- Kokiri Sword
- Deku Shield
- Nut Hover esacpe
- DoT Skip
- Save

Segment 1
- To Kakriko Village
- Get Pocket Egg
- To Graveyard
- Hylian Shield from grave
- Hookshot from Dampe’s grave, get crushed
- Race again for a Heart Piece (3.25 H)
- Poe SS warp or poe hover to seam, Shadow early
- Save

Segment 2
- Hookshot gap
- Get Deku Nuts on the way to Hover Boots
- Kill Dead Hand, get Hover Boots
- Save

Segment 3
- Exit Shadow Temple
- Save (Note, if Segment 1 is too hard, you could put the second Dampe race here)

Segment 4
- Head to Gerudo Valley
- Enter Fortress
- Save

Segment 5
- Gerudo License
- Save

Segment 6
- To Wateland
- Quicksand backwalk, navigate flags
- GS in outpost (1 GS)
- To Desert Colossus
- To Spirit Temple
- Save
Segment 7
- Hover boots silver block skip
- Hookshot crystal
- Key from silver rupee room
- To statue room
- To child side
- Hookshot crystal, chu chest (10 chus)
- Hookshot GS from edge of climbable wall, climb down and grab token (2 GS)
- Climb up, head to top of child side, chu megaflip to reach GS (3 GS) (9 chus)
- Go through next room (no need to collect key), nab GS in staircase room (4 GS)
- Save

Segment 8
- Exit temple for Requiem
- Save

Segment 9
- To Kakriko Village
- Wake Talon
- Trade Pocket Cucco for Cojiro
- To Death Mountain
- Blow up wall near the bottom, get GS (5 GS)
- Up to area with bomb flowers, get GS from inside rock with Hookshot (6 GS)
- Backflip down to top of DC, get HP (3.5 H)
- Enter DC
- Save

Segment 10
- Blow up first wall (8 chus)
- To room on right, get 2 GS in the room w/o Scarecrow’s Song (7 chus) (8 GS)
- Exit, head forward and hit the switch (that you’ld GJ to as child)
- GS in staircase room, exit and re-enter to get the other GS (10 GS) (6 chus)
- Jump to Bomb Bag (20 bombs) (7 chus)
- Bomb eyes (18 bombs)
- Get GS at far end of room on right in skull (11 GS) (17 bombs)
- Push block onto switch, head to boss chamber
- Five bomb chest, head down and kill KD for Goron’s Ruby and Heart Container  (4.5 H) (18 bombs)
- Re-enter DC and save

Segment 11
- SS to Goron City (17 bombs)
- Get GS from top platform (12 GS)
- Drop down to second floor, get Goron Tunic (16 bombs)
- Lost Woods warp (15 bombs)
- Get bomb drop from grass (20 bombs)
- Trade Cojiro for Odd Mushroom
- To SFM
- GJ to top of maze, hookshot GS (13 GS) (19 bombs)
- Learn Minuet of Forest
- BK skip
- Kill Phantom Ganon w/ hookshot, get Heart Container (5.5 H)
- Odd Mush cutscene skip for Forest Medallion
- Trade Cojiro for Odd Mush again
- To Kokiri Forest
- Get GS from house (14 GS)
- Exit forest through child’s exit for Fairy Ocarina
- SS to Kakriko Village (18 bombs)
- Get HP on rooftop (5.75 H)
- Trade Odd Mushroom for Odd Potion
- Learn Song of Storms
- Get HP in windmill (6 H)
- Save

Segment 12
- Play Minuet of Forest
- Enter Forest Temple
- Save

Segment 13
- GS on right, small key above (15 GS)
- GS in torch room, stalfos small key (16 GS)
- To block room, climb up, and jump down to access courtyard
- Floor Master small key and 2 GS from courtyard [May need to Megajump back, I don’t know the layout of this room well] (18 GS)
- Block room w/ 2 GJs and a hover boost (15 bombs)
- Bow and Quiver
- Save

Segment 14
- OoB in torch room
- Hover to lower section with bombs (4 bombs)
- Get GS (19 GS)
- Save


I'm rubbish with GS/HPs, so if there is one I should be getting and don't or one I say to get but you can't, tell me.

does max% adult aquaescape with a stick now? i assume you can get deku shield as adult so it doesnt really make a difference anyway.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure since you're supposed to get to Adult with as few items as possible. This also makes getting the Kokiri Sword impossible now.

So why not aquaescape with the sword? Still only one item.

Regarding that route, do you need the bow for the fire temple? If not, you could go to DMC in segment 11 after getting the goron tunic, get the heart pieces, GS, and end the segment in the Fire temple after getting the first small key. Next segment you could get all the fire GS's, the hammer, and fire medallion, get the bolero, and savewarp. Segment after that, you could play the bolero, get the GS in the boulder room of GC, and go to the lost woods and continue where segment 11 would have been. This saves a trip up death mountain and splits the otherwise longer segment 11 in half.

If you use a chu in Kakariko to get the ReDead grotto's rupees after getting the adult's wallet, then you can buy the Giant's Knife on your first trip through GC, which would save time on bosses.

Well the idea is to basically play the game as if there was no Child sequence. Yes, it's still one item, but you can always get Deku Sticks as an Adult while the Kokiri Sword is unobtainable.

From what I know, that route is old. Since we discovered Jabu Jabu as an Adult and the A-slide trick, the Boomerang, a Heart Container, and many more Gold Skulltulas are possible to get. I actually found out how to open the door on the 1st floor of the Water Temple, enabling you to get all the GS in there. Right now I have 61 GS and 16 Hearts and I don't think I can get more.

I tried hovering all the way across the Ferry gap in the Shadow Temple but the slope at the end makes it almost impossible to proceed. I think I'll give it another go with a superslide at the end or something.

I thought A-slides were TAS-only?

By hovering across the ferry chasm, do you mean using ISG+explosives, or hoverboots?

After seeing that Boss Key skip from the first room of the Shadow Temple, I wouldn't be surprised if it was possible to hover through the loading zone to the Kokiri sword area to make the chest load. Or is the trigger to load the map just not there as an adult?

You can do A-slides with pause buffering. It's just not practical to use them for speed; there's a trick involving A-slides that moves the camera under the ground you're currently on if you pull out a first person item, which lets you do stuff like Hookshot to the Ice Arrow chest without any keys.

I meant ISG + explosives.

It is possible to load the Kokiri Sword area as an adult. The only problem is the Kokiri Sword chest isn't there.

Updated Item List: http://pastebin.com/a7NpfRnt