Playing Zelda Blind

http://www.youtube.com/genuinescorruption

Genuinescorruption (Jordan Verner) is playing through OoT, MM and TP Blind, and needs help doing so. He plays using a script derived of mainly backflips, sidehops and such. Progress is slow because there are very few people helping. MM videos and TP Videos will be up once we get far enough in them.


This is a general discussion thread about it.

Haha I have already subbed this account, cause his videos are awesome. ^^

As he said in a recent video, TP will be hard stuff what with Epona riding and curved rolls. For Epona stuff it may have to get to the point of doing this or that in tune to the music. Escort won't be easy, and Morpheel will be harder than the sans Zora Armor strats...

For TP I wonder if in some places a LJA would be easier than what it skips...

LJA for a blind person? regardless we are thinking of doing morpheel no zora armour... not sure yet...

Blizzerk wrote

LJA for a blind person? regardless we are thinking of doing morpheel no zora armour... not sure yet...

Some of the LJA's will be really easy even if you're blind.

I'm sure you're joking about the latter.

Jiano wrote

Some of the LJA's will be really easy even if you're blind.

I'm sure you're joking about the latter.

unfortunately we are not joking about the latter, we've come to the conclusion that we are more than likely gonna have to skip over the entire "quest" to get the Zora armor due to how things look

Zero 2.0 wrote

unfortunately we are not joking about the latter, we've come to the conclusion that we are more than likely gonna have to skip over the entire "quest" to get the Zora armor due to how things look

There's no way you're going to be able to beat Morpheel without Zora Armor blind. You need to see where he's at, I just cannot imagine doing that without being able to watch him.

well then unless someone can come up with a better solution we are royally screwed over on that part then :(

Zero 2.0 wrote

well then unless someone can come up with a better solution we are royally screwed over on that part then :(

I'll probably mess with it some and see if I can figure it out.

It's cool to see how far this little project has come. I started talking to genuinescorruption about 2 years ago.

If you plan to try and help, never underestimate the sounds of the game. genuinescorruption can center a noise in his screen. That could be pretty useful. He would also have no trouble I think measuring distance through the music as Sparkle said or by counting Epona's clops.

I just watched the carridge bit in TP; the only part that looks hard is the last part. The enemies look like they suck at aiming, unless they are right up on the carridge they usually miss. If you fail the carridge part where do you go? Does it let you immediately try again? Seems like you'd just have to get lucky in the last part.

I can't see the carridge part being tougher than Morpheel without the armor.

when aiming with the bow and whirlwind boomerang (should the carriage get lit on fire) comes into play, not to mention keeping up with the carriage itself, it gets a whole lot harder to explain, probably worse to script

and jiajo: if you do come up with something that can help, i'm not sure about Blizz's reaction, but i would be near eternally grateful for the assistance, TP is already starting to be one of those games where you think you've got everything under conrol and then it smacks you upside the head with a large metal object

O_o don't you have to destroy the bomb's before the horse runs over them or something...?

actually you have to kill the kagaroks carrying the bombs before they drop them on the road to scare the horse, it's one of the hardest things to deal with along with arrows getting shot at you and, if the situation is a lot worse than expected, the carriage on fire

Where are some easy places to capture a fairy from a warp point? Perhaps a place to start would be any easy to get peices of heart? The third tunic? Any easy bottles? 1 easy bug to carry more rupees?

MrSparkle wrote

Where are some easy places to capture a fairy from a warp point? Perhaps a place to start would be any easy to get peices of heart? The third tunic? Any easy bottles? 1 easy bug to carry more rupees?

The only fairies in TP are just outside of boss rooms, until you play through the cave of ordeals. Also couldn't tell you where to get easy heart pieces... well, there's one near the Fairy Fountain in Kakariko Village that you can get by throwing the boomerang at it. There are two easy bottles, one is just a half bottle of milk that I think you get for finding the fat lady's cat in Ordon village, the other is a bottle of oil you can buy from the dude who sells a lamp for 100 rupees. The third tunic takes forever to get. You have to donate either 1000 rupees, or 200 and do this mini quest for a heart piece? where you bring a jug of hot water to the goron without breaking it, while avoiding enemies. And then you have to pay 598? rupees for it, and then you have to get even more rupees to even use it.

The boomerang throw to get the HP is behind rocks, there's just an area you can somehow get the boomerang through.  Third tunic, as said, is pretty much a no go because of how much money you have to spend to get it.  Getting a bug for more rupees is a good idea, because of the whole "no room for this big rupee" thing.  The easiest one?  Probably the ant in the kakariko graveyard, or the ant in the house.  That might need testing.

Fairies...  they fly around very randomly, so I guess that's up to the player...  I don't think there are 5 easy to get pieces of heart, most of them have puzzles, complex navigation, or boomerang throwing involved.  If he was going to get them, I'm going to suggest that he get them early in the game to try and avoid these.

BTW:  The rupee costs for magic armor: 1000 to build the bridge, 2000 OR keg sidequest and 200 rupees for the store, and 578 for the tunic (you get a 20 rupee discount if you buy it the first time you're in the store).

If we're not getting the magic armor, the only thing that you need to buy in the game is the cannon, and that can be bought without a wallet upgrade. It's interesting to note that bombs can only be bought, obtained by chests, or fished for one at a time, but we usually can just get all the bombs needed to beat the game from chests.

If we're not doing EMS, we also need to buy the bomb bag (120 rupees) and a trip up Fyer's cannon (10 rupees).  Normally you'd just get the silver rupee from Renado's house in Kakariko to top off the cannon funds, but I don't think we're gonna be able to here.  We'll need to find other places to get those rupees.

Also, how is the player gonna handle snowboarding?  I think that'll be even worse than riding Epona.

It would have to come down to doing this or that at certain parts of the music, I guess. I will try snowboarding and see what basic stuff I can find...

MrSparkle wrote

It would have to come down to doing this or that at certain parts of the music, I guess. I will try snowboarding and see what basic stuff I can find...

The music is the Snowpeak ambient, which all sounds very similar to me.  His ears might be completely different than mine, but it's still going to be extremely challenging.  He might have to rely on crashing and/or jumping to know where he is.

Yeah I forgot you don't race the first time. After some work i got it with my eyes closed. Theres only 1 precistion area, the rest the course curves guides you down the slopes well. Theres far harder stuff in the game before this, but at least this will not be much, compared to Epona and stuff...

Even though this topic is some months past the last response, I felt I should add that I just recently did the very battle that was being discussed, which is Morpheel while blind and share my experience in relation to the subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yW10S7lfcI

While this is most likely the easiest boss in the game for him to do, it is likely next to impossible to pull off without Zora Armor, as a lot of time was simply spent waiting, though it may be possible if intentionally getting eaten will reset the air meter.