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Found a new savewarp: After you get the Roc's Feather, you get two keys before you get to the area with the boss key (hopefully you know what I mean Tompa).  A S&Q after the second key saves a couple of seconds, and also allows for better optimization for the second half.

I was thinking about doing a save warp there, but in my mind I couldn't get how it would be faster. I'm going to check with the emulator.

Edit: Ok, it was actually going to save time apparently. Then go for it :P.

Should I try to do the mini boss in only 3 drops, like the TAS?

Of course you shall at least try it :P. I don't remember how hard that was to accomplish or what we did to make it to work either. But if you think you can do it, go for it.

The timing for that three cycle is so hard, it's not worth it.  There's enough luck manipulation in that segment as it is.

I don't think the game has frustrated me more with any other segment, and I'm going to be taking a break to do a LA screenwarping run.  I finished my route today (because it's extremely complicated, right?), and might start attempts tomorrow, I'll keep people posted if they want.

I'm hoping to resume progress on this run sometime next week.

SD2 wrote

I'm going to be taking a break to do a LA screenwarping run.

Awesome.  I'd love to see this. :)

Yay, I just got seasons. :)

I'll start running that sucker after LA. :)

My schedule is finally starting to open up.  I've found a consistent way to get a 3 cycle on the miniboss, so I'm going to get more attempts tonight and see if I can't get this sucker started again.

I'm also starting the Seasons run.  I know what I'm doing for segment 1, so I think I'll attempt that a bit tonight as well.

Either way, a new segment of either should go up on my channel tonight.

Ouch, triple post. x_X

First post updated for my new seasons run that I started, and I'll get segment 2 up either tonight or tomorrow afternoon.

Oh, and I'm redoing Ages seg 12, which is why I took it off my Youtube channel.

It's awesome that you are dedicated to do these runs! Lovely.
Good luck with Seasons as well as Ages.

Just got a PS3, and unfortunately it's on the same TV as my 'cube.  Runs will be on hold until after Christmas, sorry. :(

<_< Hi guys. The reason I'm not working on my OoA run is because I'm working a lot on night shift now, so I sleep all day and have no time to play. Your run has encouraged me to at least try when I have days off (especially now that my girlfriend will be in China for a few weeks <_<;). I will definitely keep some of my secrets from you, just in case you don't know them.

^ Oh sure, work on your OoA run :(

I did start that run before the BK run. <_<

Keep secrets? Tricks and such in the run that only you know of? Sounds interesting.

I don't actually know if you (or anyone else) don't know what I'm talking about. >_>

Oh BTW, up to getting the Power Bracelet, my Japanese run is (by our own respective timing), three minutes faster than yours. Is there going to be a reliable way of telling which is faster in terms of the gameplay (the text is the main reason for the difference of course), should both of us actually finish?

The Japanese version have a lot less text, so it really should be a "seperate category" as it isn't that easy to compare the two. But I did go through the French version of A Link to the Past to know how much faster Wak's 100% run would have been if it was made with an US copy of the game, so I guess I could do the same here, but it will be much harder.

There are some other differences between the versions however. For example:
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The first one only matters for a single segment run and the second is only to show another example... There are most likely more of them but I haven't cared to check.

I did a drawing about five years ago, and here it is, I mean, It's not that good, but that's all I can do

OoS noob here, I am trying to skip the Dungeon item in lvl 4... probably not gonna happen since I don't know where the big key or what you need for the boss >_>. I just know that I've glitched to the boss door without the dungeon item... Somebody who knows this game please come here and make me look like an idiot ;'(

I see no way that you can skip the Slingshot, it's needed in several places. In a TAS you can skip the upgraded version though.

I'm determined to find a glitch in these games  ::)

Except I keep accidentally doing glitches like autumn early which I thought was legit :/

Is there a place where I can find the speed tricks and glitches for this game.

Also is there a route for 100% OoA and OoS?

There aren't any documentations for the tricks and glitches, best shot is to watch the record runs: http://zeldaspeedruns.com/leaderboards.

100% would take forever to do and will mostly be luck with rings. And to get all rings you have to play the games 5 times total. Start OoS/OoA -> Linked to OoA/OoS -> Linked to OoS/OoA + Start OoA/OoS -> Linked to OoS/OoA. No one has done such run and there are no routes for them.

Darn I was really wanting to do a 100% run. I want to do a run no one has done yet so if there is one I would like to hear about it. I'm not new to speedrunning but I have never been successful at it. It looks like most of the tricks in the runs I have watched are just advanced jumps. Or would it be insulting to say that?

For a 100% run, perhaps you could use the secret generator to get all of the rings at the beginning of the game. Then it should be reduced to just a single playthrough of either linked game.

It does feel almost like using a built-in cheat code, but it seems more realistic. I don't think anyone wants to deal with that much RNG. It seems like a gray area though, I don't know if it would be considered acceptable.

So, Oracle of Ages has been broken. We found a way to warp to the final boss basically on accident. Sub 2 hours is easily possible.

demonstration

Damn. How much testing has been done with this trick?

Well, scorpianman claims to have a 100% consistent way of doing the veran warp. It's very good, but for me, it does fail on occasion.

With certain setups, you can also get the red ring with the glitch, which allows you to kill veran in one cycle. I can't imagine any applications of this glitch that would speed things up any more, but a few other neat tricks have been found, such as a way to quickly scroll across the map.

Here's how scorpianman does it

Here's how I do it

Do you need a specific amount of bombs/rupees/seeds, etc. for this trick to work? Or can you not have beaten dungeons 7 and 8? Cause I've been trying this out with an almost completed file (all but the black tower finished), and it doesn't give me the same effects no matter what setup I use. It always either softlocks or crashes when I do it.

I don't think the seed amounts matter... but yes, various innocent-seeming variables can affect the glitch. For instance:

- you must visit part of the secret passage in ambi's palace, or nothing will happen
- if you've visited the top-left of symmetry city in the present, your glitched ring box won't be as useful
- you must equip the ember or pegasus seeds with the seed shooter, or else the veran warp doesn't work

I'm sure that other factors can influence the glitch... but I've gotten it to work on a 100% completed file. It did seem to act a bit differently though.

Also, this is US only. This is that kind of glitch that a version difference will change completely.


Come to think of it - you probably need at least one or two bombs.