Majora's Mask Any% Seg'd (Segments done 3/19)

Update in latest post by me.

segment 1: (Time: 04:54.13)
segment 2: (Time: 09:32.85)
segment 3: (Time: 04:25.44)
segment 4: (not finished)
segment 5: (not finished)
segment 6: (not finished)
segment 7: (not finished)
segment 8: (not finished)
segment 9: (not finished)
segment 10: (not finished)
segment 11: (not finished)
segment 12: (not finished)
segment 13: (not finished)
segment 14: (not finished)
segment 15: (not finished)
segment 16: (not finished)
segment 17: (not finished)
segment 18: (not finished)
segment 19: (not finished)

Goal time: sub 1:32:00

Total time: 00:18:52.42

Version being used: NTSC VC

Route: http://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/mm/routes/any-segmented

http://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/mm/routes/any-segmented

Here's your route.

... How did I miss that?

Anyways ty Ing, guess this means I can get to attempting this run now since there's already a route written up for me. (might disappoint my stream viewers though seeing as I have no way to record and stream at the same time.)

Oh well I suppose it was a bit fun writing and planning a- ah who am I kidding this was a big waste of time if there was already a optimized route.

Alright I got the first two segments done and are uploading now. (my computer takes forever to upload videos though 'cause it's got crappy upload speed.)

I will update this post and the OP once they're all done and processed. (also tell me if I should re-do any segments once I update this post with the links.)

In the mean time I'll be re-watching Ing's 1:49 just so that I can bask in his consistency with megaflips. ;D (jk it's more for my entertainment 'cause I can't stop watching it.)

EDIT: just updated the OP to include the first 2 segments and a bit more info on my run.

sorry ing your disciples are weak but mine they strong

itt kaztalek tries to start shit with me as usual

Anyway playe, those segments are somewhat decent, but you should really be getting times of like 5:10 for seg 1 on VC (although I have no idea how). At the very least you should get 5:13 for seg 1 on VC to match my old segs from N64.

Kaztalek wrote

sorry ing your disciples are weak but mine they strong

Kaztalek please don't try to troll ing in this thread, for all of us.

ING-X wrote

itt kaztalek tries to start shit with me as usual

Anyway playe, those segments are somewhat decent, but you should really be getting times of like 5:10 for seg 1 on VC (although I have no idea how). At the very least you should get 5:13 for seg 1 on VC to match my old segs from N64.

Advice taken Ing, btw Alckermit and Zero told me over IRC that my video was a bit choppy, could you see anything like that when you watched it? I'm curious to see if it was just IRC messing up the video. (assuming they watched it through IRC which idk if that's possible with a downloadable client.)

Idk, I don't remember specifically seeing anything like that. What exactly are you using to record again? DVD recorder? If it's a DVD recorder and you're using anri to encode, there shouldn't really be any problems. I recommend posting a quality test on the SDA forums if you haven't already before you start doing more segments.

No I use a Dazzle dvc 100 and Debut to record my videos. (haven't encoded anything yet in Anri-chan so the segments I've uploaded are the raw video files.)

Hm, well since it's a segmented run you shouldn't have issues with dropped frames since the recordings will be so short. I still recommend posting a quality test on SDA before you start doing more segments (preferrably one about a minute or so long to make sure there aren't frame drops).

IMO, you should make sure your computer isn't running any other programs while you're recording segments; that way you will minimize dropped frames as much as possible. Elminster is far more proficient with dazzle recording than me, so you should talk to him if you need further help with maximizing video quality.

if you have a dazzle dont use debut it's shit

use pinnacle dvd recorder, it's on the disc that comes with it

it will record in .vob like a dvd so you'll have to use anri-chan to encode

my comp isnt very powerful yet this program has yet to drop a frame, even with other programs open, for extended periods of time

Yeah um Kaztalek the thing is that I sorta lost the sleeve for my Pinnacle disk so I no longer have the serial number to install it.

Although it might be good to find a alternate way to install it and at least try it.

I'm pretty sure the DVD recorder doesn't require a serial code.

Alright after a bunch of procrastinating I've finally gotten around to getting everything I need to record segments with quality I know will be acceptable. (although don't expect any segments any time soon 'cause I've decided to do another test run through the route.)

Also I've tried HESSing a bit and have decided that I won't use them in this run. (If the controls were better I would but...) tbh I don't think anyone would be sane enough to do a ESS direction change on VC even if doing segmented. (actually I think that route was written up with the N64 version in mind.)

Either way I'll do a few tests and see how everything works out.

*sighs* for some reason Instant DVD recorder won't record any sound. (I even check to see if all my cables are correct and still no sound whatsoever.)

I might talk to Elminster about this problem but other than that idk what I could do.

Either way this means, yet again that my run will be even further delayed unless someone else has a better solution.

I've updated the any% segmented route on ZSR to reflect changes resulting from Grunz's TAS.

Ing the only thing you seem to have changed is skipping adults wallet and only buying 10 chus instead of 20 at the first bomb shop trip.

Also didn't Grunz pick up the Adult wallet and only do 2 bomb shop trips? how would skipping adults wallet reflect on that?

playe wrote

Ing the only thing you seem to have changed is skipping adults wallet and only buying 10 chus instead of 20 at the first bomb shop trip.

Also didn't Grunz pick up the Adult wallet and only do 2 bomb shop trips? how would skipping adults wallet reflect on that?

Getting the adult wallet is faster in a TAS because you can just manipulate 99 rupees from the grass outside clock town and get it in first cycle. For a console run, however, it's faster to just skip it (probably only worth it segmented though because of how tight bombs are). Doing 2 bomb shop trips is slower on console because console can't do crazy shit like triple staircase hovers that make normal bomb hovering way faster.

Also, that was not the only change I made - I also added the 2 explosive GBT BK skip and the megahovers to skip the last pirate in Pirate's Fortress. I think I made a couple other minor changes too, but that's the major stuff.

Okay I don't think I'm going to get any segments out for a while, simply because (after a few casual SS runs.) I found out that I have a LOT more to learn about the tricks in this game. (main ones are FFWW with megaflips and the GBT 2 explosive bk skip.)

I'm also going to watch Grunz' TAS several times over to get a idea on how some of the tricks actually work. (I'm also going to practice the tech's extensively.)

idk how long it'll take for me to get a segment out but I do know it won't be anytime soon.

you won't get the proper idea of how they work from the TAS. it is too fast.
use a real-time run.

Are there any real time runs that use the GBT 2 explosive BK skip? If there are than I would gladly watch it but as of right now the only run that I can really use as a guide is the TAS since it uses most of the tricks a seg'd run would. (though the FFWW megaflip method is just because I'm a bit inconsistent with them.)

btw fun fact, in both casual SS runs I've done I've been able to get the Turtle CS skip on both. (The NWBN CS skip I got once but it's still real easy to do.) So I think I won't make the Turtle CS skip it's own segment. (unless making it it's own segment saves time somewhere which I don't see where it could.)

Okay double post but this is kinda important.

I've officially given up on trying to record any speed-runs using my Dazzle. (Wouldn't be a problem if my audio drivers would install correctly...)

So I've decided to save up enough money to just buy a DVD recorder and DVD-RW's for the run... thing is I have no clue what a good DVD recorder is, so if anyone has recommendations I'm open to them.

depends on what is available to you.

I'll most likely buy it online so I don't think availability is a problem.

IDK what the best DVD recorder actually is but the most commonly used one (me, ZFG, Jiano, and a bunch of other people all use it) is this one: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMagnavox-MWR10D6-DVD-Recorder%2Fdp%2FB000GW81BM&rct=j&q=Magnavox%20MWR10D6&ei=j-YpTob6LLS20AHimMSRCw&usg=AFQjCNEkFdSj5zFlbjOgKXuG5P5Vy6u8gw&sig2=EZ7VguCcKcwH2rrLH_Nmcg&cad=rja

Okay quick update but I now have a way to record segments without a gigantic file size. (Turns out all I needed to do was download Lagarith Lossless codec. *facepalm*) anyways I got segments 1-2 both re-done according to the new route that Ing made. (And yes I'm still mad at you for changing the route Ing.)

Once I get the first two segments encoded and put up onto YT I'll post the links here.

EDIT: Ing, I re-read the route and spotted a mistake

Quote

Segment 5

    Get Zora Mask
    Superslide to Zora Cape(9C 15B)
    Zora Pots for 90R(99R)
    Bomb drops near owl(9C 20B)
    Hit Zora Cape owl
    Save

Segment 6

    Flying Zora to Fairy Fountain
    Blow up rocks(9C 20B)
    Wrong Warp to Ikana(7C 14B)
    Superslide to Ikana owl(7C 13B)
    Hit Ikana Owl
    Save

Mind telling me where that extra chu came from?

Fixed. A bomb is supposed to be used.

Update: First three segments are encoded and uploaded, links are in the OP.
Please give me feedback on these segments, it'll be appreciated.

Looking good so far playe. I like that you turned off the system right after playing song of time. I think the current 100% and the former any% run did go through the time-travelling then ran to the owl.

Have you an idea of when this will be finished?

No not atm, the ISGslide in segment 4 is kicking my butt so it may take a while.