TWW: Question & Answer / Trick Help

So... I have a 1-2 frames to target Orca after the text?.

Thanks for the info about the air refill, I was thinking that but sometimes I don't fall no matter the speed... for example sometimes I pass to the right side of the tower near the Fire Mountain and don't work but sometimes I pass the tower from the left side and I get the air refill... I always start the superswim at the right of the boat, I guess I'm in limit so sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, I'm going to start aiming the superswim slighty to the right.

UYNiko wrote

So... I have a 1-2 frames to target Orca after the text?.

No, you can target him at any time after the text, as long as it's before the parry input comes up. Something important to note is the music in the fight: whatever beat the music is on when you end his text is the beat the quick parry can be performed on the next time it comes around.

Is there a reliable position for superswim to greathfish? I don't care about the time I just want to test some stuff and I need to do that superswim.

How do I get 610+ Yards on the Bird-Man Contest? I'm able to escape the Flight Control Platform and sail toward the edge of the square, but the Rito always says I'm out of bounds.

You have to make sure you are lined up with it perfectly. If you are off by a tiny bit it will say OoB.

hey all, im starting to learn this game, and im having some issues.

is there a video for the clip into birds peak rock to get the early triforce chart? when i try to do it i dont have an issue lining it up but i cant seem to land behind the gate, i always either land outside it or in the ocean.

also does anyone know how much time (approx) having a tuner would save?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJKBhJ39KNg for the Bait Bag skip

Tuner saves probably around 10 minutes between two optimized runs and that is a VERY rough estimate

gamestabled wrote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJKBhJ39KNg for the Bait Bag skip

Tuner saves probably around 10 minutes between two optimized runs and that is a VERY rough estimate

Tuner saves 4-5 minutes with the newest route.

During the orca fight during the thrust phase you hold forward for the first two attacks, hold all the way back on the third, and immediately front B again (similar to the first two phases). It saves some frames rather than just mashing forward and b  ;D.

Hey guys ! I'm learning TWW and I have 2 question.

1) Have you a good spot to train the leaf pumping ?

2) Is the PAL version slower than the NTSC ?

R110forever wrote

Hey guys ! I'm learning TWW and I have 2 question.

1) Have you a good spot to train the leaf pumping ?

2) Is the PAL version slower than the NTSC ?

1) Ghost ship, or the river where you ride the flower in Forbidden Woods (do it without the flower)

2) If you play on Italian its almost as fast as NTSC-J. Different route though because of version differences. If you're talking about TWWHD, then PAL (italian) is faster than the others.

Thank you for your answer.
I'm talking about TWW. Not TWWHD. If the italian version is almost as fast as NTSC-J. So why a lot of speedrunners use the english version ?

Italian is the second fastest language in Wind Waker (not just HD) afaik. The reason why US people use Spanish instead of Italian is because Italian is only available in European versions. Spanish is the 3rd fastest afaik.

anyone who can help me with ledge clipping a bit? i'm trying to skip the pirates password and i can set up the pot perfectly (at least it looks perfect to me), backflip, pull out the leaf, press a to drop the leaf, hang on to the ledge, and start pause buffering. but as soon as i get to the right frame (or what i believe to be the right frame, when link's knees straighten), i get stuck and the wall pushes me out. I am pushing my control stick in the opposite way of the way, but everytime i never get in very far.

I notice that most runners of the game re-use the leaf once they pause buffer out the right frame, but it doesn't allow me to re-use the leaf when i'm climbing on something? is there something i'm doing wrong or? (I'm on TWWHD if it makes a different)

KoRL is giving me a lot of trouble in WWSD. Particularly at Forest Haven. When I get the leaf and save warp out intending to sail to the forbidden woods, KoRL refuses to let me in. The only way I can actually get into the boat is by drowning. Why is this happening?

TrogWW wrote

KoRL is giving me a lot of trouble in WWSD. Particularly at Forest Haven. When I get the leaf and save warp out intending to sail to the forbidden woods, KoRL refuses to let me in. The only way I can actually get into the boat is by drowning. Why is this happening?

Did you superswim to forest haven before setting the wind south? Sometimes that can make him finicky if you don't do that.

Can someone help me understand why I can't tingle balloon to skip the scale maze in ToGs? Tingle refuses to let me use it.  :-\

You have to use it in the previous room where you get the statue, right after it's activated open the door to the scale room and you'll have it activated in that room

gymnast86 wrote

You have to use it in the previous room where you get the statue, right after it's activated open the door to the scale room and you'll have it activated in that room

Great thanks a lot!

Does anyone know how to skip the cutscene in dragon roost cavern when you throw the water pot into the lava the first time? I've gotten it a couple times but can't get it consistent. I think it has something to do with the camera position and going into target mode.

Unreal704 wrote

Does anyone know how to skip the cutscene in dragon roost cavern when you throw the water pot into the lava the first time? I've gotten it a couple times but can't get it consistent. I think it has something to do with the camera position and going into target mode.

The strat I use is to have the camera as low as possible (by holding C up) and also to make sure that the camera is directly behind Link, and it seems to work most of the time.

I have a question regarding the Pirate Ship passwords. I'm currently learning Glitchless on JP and am wondering if anybody has a list of all the answers to the questions in Japanese? I want to either memorize them or print them out so I can just see the answer and then input it without having to write it down or something like that. I'm tempted to make a list myself, but I'm not sure if the password is generated randomly after you enter the cutscene or if it's generated at file creation. If it is the latter then that will be a pain to make a list of. Anyways, thanks in advance!

Nevermind! I just found the list Cafde made. :D

Nook wrote

If you have any questions about the workings of the game, tricks, routes, or speedruns, this is the place to ask or help others.

I do have a question, in "100%" Eng, is it possible to do Zephos Skip, and would it be possible to finish the run without Tingle Tuner (i mean without using it).

hope some answers.

locoomx wrote

I do have a question, in "100%" Eng, is it possible to do Zephos Skip, and would it be possible to finish the run without Tingle Tuner (i mean without using it).

hope some answers.

Yes, you can do Zephos Skip just like you would do in Any%, it doesn't prevent you from completing 100%.

And yes, using the Tingle Tuner is not required for 100%. The 100% route includes some tricks that require Tingle Tuner, but they can easily be replaced by different strats and won't affect the overall route itself.

So... Because of bad memes I now want to skip using the boat when first going to Dragon Roost isle. I've already don the hover there which, I don't ever wanna do ever again... no I need something faster :/
I remember it being possible to get storage in ways other then using the baton Soup for example, but I do not have those things available at that time again. So... With a Sail, a Telescope and potentially... the tingle tuner. I need a way to superswim from Windfall isle over to DRI. I know this is one of those request that is dumb because if it was possible to do Non-Tas, it would already be in the any% run. But I still got to ask... with no questions we would never know the answers.
As for why I want this. I want to see if we can use the " Windfall Isle Teleport" effect that is given when not using Boat to potentially save time... though I'm not that sure.
Anyways, that's all... Nothing more to say.

You're absolutely correct, if we knew a way to do it quickly we'd already be doing this in runs.
Regardless I can do my best to walk through what we know.

Currently for the original version of the game, there are 3 unique ways we know of to get storage.

• Using the wind waker. (Dry storage, forest water storage, Zelda in Ganondorf fight storage(?)
• Soup Storage
• Orca Storage

Orca storage isn't very well known and was found fairly recently. But the basic idea behind it is that you mash through the text so fast that Orca is unable to complete his talking animation. I suppose Orca's animation completing is a flag for telling the game that the cutscene has ended. So because it never completes, the game still thinks you're in a cutscene event, which is storage. (I'm not entirely sure if this is the correct reasoning, but this is what my intuition tells me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zucM-gLjDaM

So let's suppose we can use one of the actor's text in Windfall to give us storage, even then we still have a the problem of activating a useful form of camera lock.
Currently the only known way of superswimming in camera lock is from using the wind waker.
The camera lock you get from the sail does not have any useful properties for superswimming. The tingle tuner sail and pictobox are equally as useless (as far as we know).

Is it known how the board is generated for the sploosh game? ie. is it true rng for each spot when the board is made, or are there maybe a preset selection of layouts and the game chooses one each time? If the latter then-if we knew each possible layout-it should be possible to optimize our guessing based on which spots most frequently contain ships in between each possible board? like a probability density type thing. IDK if anyone's really looked into this, and I feel like it's probably just totally random in the first place anyways so its kind of moot, but I thought it might be interesting to bring up given how annoying the damn game can be in 100%.

DOPE FIEND KILLA G wrote

Is it known how the board is generated for the sploosh game? ie. is it true rng for each spot when the board is made, or are there maybe a preset selection of layouts and the game chooses one each time? If the latter then-if we knew each possible layout-it should be possible to optimize our guessing based on which spots most frequently contain ships in between each possible board? like a probability density type thing. IDK if anyone's really looked into this, and I feel like it's probably just totally random in the first place anyways so its kind of moot, but I thought it might be interesting to bring up given how annoying the damn game can be in 100%.

I have looked a bit into this in the past. When you first enter the room, the game already has picked a board for you to play, even before you talk to Salvatore. After that, the board is set when you hit the closing textbox on the previous game.

As for how it chooses a game, I have no idea. I would imagine it runs an algorithm to generate the board, much less memory intensive than keeping a large array of pre-existing games. How the algorithm works, and if it can be abused, is beyond my knowledge.