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OoT3D: Boss Time Attack

Started by thundrio · 16 Jun 2011 · 211 replies

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Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#122
Some people say that you can find giant's knife in the big chest after Volvagia.

Chest content depend of the timer and I'm not sure you can find the GK when speedrunning gauntelet. But it means that we may find it somwhere before Twinrova which would allow to one cycle her in last phase.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#123
Majora MIM wrote

Some people say that you can find giant's knife in the big chest after Volvagia.

Chest content depend of the timer and I'm not sure you can find the GK when speedrunning gauntelet. But it means that we may find it somwhere before Twinrova which would allow to one cycle her in last phase.

Slow down enough to get the Giant's Knife, then one cycle the rest of the bosses?

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#124
No. It would just be used to one cycle twinrova.
It breaks after five or six hits. So maybe two or three hits on morpha/bongo but no more. If we have to wait more than 30s then screw it.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#125
Almost had 5.56 on Gohma. So frustrated. Several 5.60-5.70s (finishing blow), but no double side hops on any of them to seal the deal. This just needs to happen so I can move on to the next boss already.

Last edited 28 Jul 2011, 02:42 by TSA.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#128
37.40 on King Dodongo. Should have had 37.36, but slight off center roll at end -_-.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#129
you can get the GK after phantom ganon in gauntlet. i did 3 hits on bongo with it and it broke with 1 hit on twinrova

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#131
56.76 seconds on phantom ganon

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Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#133
You should post individual (sticky) threads on how to speedrun different bosses. And other people can submit their strategies. just a suggstion.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#135
5.53 5.50 is possible on Gohma. Another screw up on hops to portal. Consistently getting 5.56-5.63 now, but seriously, can somebody please figure out how to trigger the side hops...this is getting annoying.

Last edited 12 Aug 2011, 07:18 by TSA.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#136
TSA wrote

5.53 5.50 is possible on Gohma. Another screw up on hops to portal. Consistently getting 5.56-5.63 now, but seriously, can somebody please figure out how to trigger the side hops...this is getting annoying.

I think there's a window of time between the ending of Gohma's death scene and Link regaining movement. Side hopping during that frame of time could make Link side hop before the timer begins again. Or it could be side hopping immediately after the final hit on Gohma, then the game automatically registers your movement as a sidehop as soon as you regain control.

I think it all comes down to luck, really. If you're getting those times and are right next to the portal, I would just play it safe and roll.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#137
GeneraLight wrote

I think there's a window of time between the ending of Gohma's death scene and Link regaining movement. Side hopping during that frame of time could make Link side hop before the timer begins again. Or it could be side hopping immediately after the final hit on Gohma, then the game automatically registers your movement as a sidehop as soon as you regain control.

I think it all comes down to luck, really. If you're getting those times and are right next to the portal, I would just play it safe and roll.


My problem is the best time I've gotten by rolling is .16, but usually it's .36 or more. I am not literally right next to the portal ever. I'm always at least 1 hop distance, usually within 2 hops. So, to get a good time, I need the side hops to happen. Unless, by the video I posted, you can point out something I am doing wrong in terms of spacing. If I could be as close to the portal as say the end of Volvagia or Phantom Ganon's battle, then it's possible to get to the portal in no time or almost no time (maybe .03 ticked on).

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#138
I deleted my Morpha pic. Here is the new one:
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/52448520110722125848.jpg

Here are also the others:
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/57062420110722125835.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/38755420110722125827.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/76007620110722125840.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/76476220110722125900.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/62901320110722125905.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/36649520110726023442.jpg

I have got 5,93 Gohma and 37,60 KD but no pic yet.

Last edited 15 Aug 2011, 22:24 by Majora MIM.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#139
PLEASE, for the love of... anything, put thumbnails instead!!!

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#141
TSA wrote

Almost had 5.56 on Gohma. So frustrated. Several 5.60-5.70s (finishing blow), but no double side hops on any of them to seal the deal. This just needs to happen so I can move on to the next boss already.


This. I'm not getting an understanding how to get the double side hops. I can get 5.50 ~ 5.90 easy, but I lose so much time trying to roll to the portal.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#142
TSA wrote

5.53 5.50 is possible on Gohma. Another screw up on hops to portal. Consistently getting 5.56-5.63 now, but seriously, can somebody please figure out how to trigger the side hops...this is getting annoying.


At the very least, I've learned that it's not input in between the final strike hitting Ghoma, and her death animation playing. It's all input afterwards. I think it might be pressing the a button at just the right time either during her death animation (like towards the end or something) or right as it ends.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#143
HappySalesman wrote

At the very least, I've learned that it's not input in between the final strike hitting Ghoma, and her death animation playing. It's all input afterwards. I think it might be pressing the a button at just the right time either during her death animation (like towards the end or something) or right as it ends.


Couldn't you test using home buffering to see when the input start to function?
It is probably a slow and annoying way to test it, but it should atleast tell you when you're suppost to do your inputs.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#144
Its the first frame you gain control, since the game hasn't completely taken you out of L targeting yet.  Then the second sidehop has to be the frame before you touch the ground.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#146
Not a new time, but here is the video of the 5.80 Gohma time. This shows that time can still advance even when pulling off the side hops. I know ZFG pointed out "how" you can do the hops, but it would be nice to have an explanation as to why sometimes time doesn't advance, and others, it does. You can look at my 5.83 video (where time didn't advance) and 5.80 video (where time did advance .04 seconds) for reference.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

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Gohma in 5.76:                           King Dodongo in 37.36            Barinade in 48.13
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Phantom Ganon in 49.80            Volvagia in 29.80                      Morpha in 21.73
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Bongo Bongo in 12.06              Twinrova in 1:56.96                   Boss Gauntlet 6:24.93
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Last edited 29 Aug 2011, 16:47 by CrazyGamingNerd.

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#149
Can Someone help me? i have gotten a few times that i think are fast but could someone PLEASE tell me the sort of strategies people use for the bosses to speedrun them because i can't find it ANYWHERE online that doesn't say use the power crouch stab and deku sticks because i know those glitches dont work! i joined this site hoping i could get help in this area but i haven't found anywhere giving hints on how to defeat them in the times that you guys are all setting. :(  :(  :(  :'(

Re: Ocarina of Time 3D Boss Time Attack

#150
Thanks, UchihaSasuke. :)
I'm not sure if I can do any run without any good recording device...

Anyways, I just found out yesterday that the game is even more broken.

King Dodongo in 28.10
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Can anyone guess how I got that? It is actually a horrible record. I can get near 20 seconds I believe.

Quick_Learner, I haven't gotten that many hints either. However, If you read through this topic you should be able to get a good Gohma, King Dodongo and Bongo Bongo record.
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