CloudMax's RTA Any% Route

Edit: I'm just an idiot

Why do you collect bugs as an adult if you get the bow? Also which method do you use to skip trials?

Edit: Are you using bugs to rba? If so why dupe the fish?

td90s wrote

Why do you collect bugs as an adult if you get the bow? Also which method do you use to skip trials?

Edit: Are you using bugs to rba? If so why dupe the fish?

We get bugs as adult to RBA the medallions.
We skip the trials using megaflip (+ damage boost if you want).

1 fish to enter jabu, 1 fish on the switch inside jabu.
Which means that we do not have any fishes left, so we get a bug later on.

I didn't know the fish/switch glitch still worked, so I ended up having a fish for rba as adult. I've been trying to megaflip to skip trials for like a week, but cant seem to get it. I've watched youtube videos, but they don't really help. Have any tips how I can make it more consistent? Also when I rba the medallions I get the forest, shadow and spirit and lose the light medallion. For some reason Shiek still blocks me from going back in time (I know this isn't part of the route, but just wondering if you knew why).

It's probably because walking into the blue portal and starting the forest medallion cs is what triggers sheik to move

D U F I wrote

It's probably because walking into the blue portal and starting the forest medallion cs is what triggers sheik to move

If only that wasn't the case then maybe you could skip going to the forest temple. I heard you can kill Gannondorf with 1 arrow.

Yeah, you can MajoraMIM has a video of him doing it.

td90s wrote

If only that wasn't the case then maybe you could skip going to the forest temple. I heard you can kill Gannondorf with 1 arrow.

The only way to skip forest temple would be to get light arrow without getting bow.
And the only way to achieve this is by doing RBA with beans before triggering the light arrow cutscene.

So what we really need is a fast way to get bottle on B as child (not counting NG+)

You could just get deku sticks on "b" at the fishing pond by using the use items anywhere glitch. Then you could get bottle on "b".

Edit: Or does this not work as a child?

td90s wrote

You could just get deku sticks on "b" at the fishing pond by using the use items anywhere glitch. Then you could get bottle on "b".

Edit: Or does this not work as a child?

Child can't use hover/iron boots, so no.

It's possible with RBA but too long...

Isn't there a sequence of glitches that lets young link use any of the adult items and vice versa (not talking about new game+). Maybe I'm just confused, probably. On a side note we need a new way to skip most of the child dungeons(mainly DC) and/or a DoT skip. I heard someone clipped through one of the walls in the temple of time does anyone know more about that?

Sadly, there are 2 doors of time now, we can clip trought the second!

V92ify wrote

It's possible with RBA but too long...

Do you mean like.. Inventory overstuffing? In order to RBA beans as adult (or equip iron/hover boots as child)?
Because just setting up a file that can do the overstuffing glitch will take forever.

We need a decent way to RBA as child. and not require you to turn adult first.

In my current playthrough, I did Lon Lon Stick and used RBA with Pocket Egg, Odd Mushroom and Odd Poultice. I'm not sure what exactly I did afterwards, but it was nothing significant other than running around, save & quit, Light Arrow cutscene, trade for Poacher's Saw and travel to the Ice Cavern, but in the first room of Ice Cavern I suddenly noticed I could use the sword again, even though I didn't get Giant's Knife, so I guess there has to be some way to get the sword back without reequipping it? I didn't play any other files during that time, either.

Serris wrote

In my current playthrough, I did Lon Lon Stick and used RBA with Pocket Egg, Odd Mushroom and Odd Poultice. I'm not sure what exactly I did afterwards, but it was nothing significant other than running around, save & quit, Light Arrow cutscene, trade for Poacher's Saw and travel to the Ice Cavern, but in the first room of Ice Cavern I suddenly noticed I could use the sword again, even though I didn't get Giant's Knife, so I guess there has to be some way to get the sword back without reequipping it? I didn't play any other files during that time, either.

Could be because you did something after the light arrow cutscene had been triggered. On console the cutscene used to trigger BA, but that isn't the case on 3ds.
Maybe you died and/or saved sometime after the light arrow cutscene.
I never really tried to do stuff after the light arrow cutscene to see if I could get the sword back.

Currently we do not know any way to re-equip the sword on a file that you've never equipped a sword on. Like a Lon Lon stick file for example.

Here is an idea I had a long time ago for how the route could be changed:
GET 10 SKULLTULAS AS CHILD

TSC escape
Cucco bottle
KZ skip
Farore's Wind after jabu
odd mushroom after jabu

Wallet
200 Rupee Chest
Giant's Knife
Mushroom
Set Warp point in Meadow (you do this because you have to wait for timer to run out anyway.)
Get Swordless (Archery method)
RBA Odd mushroom
Warp back

Note this was ever timed. It was just speculations. I think it could have some potential. I have no idea if it will be any faster, but even if it isn't, it should be quite similar, and it will remove the stupid Lon Lon Stick glitch. (yay for kokiri sword).
I took some estimate times (not actually timed, just made up in my head), and it feels like it should be faster.

Someone should try it out, or time each differences in the run and see how it ends up. You do not have to wait for egg to crack, no King zora CS, you do not have to buy all the nuts at the start. You get kokiri sword which means that you do not have to run around and collect dekusticks.
On the other hand, you have to get odd mushroom, and other things.
So it should even up at the end, hopefully with the new route ahead.

Here's what I did this time:

Adult Link
Pocket Egg
Bugs
Hookshot
Lon Lon Stick
Cojiro
RBA Odd Mushroom
Minuet
Savewarp into Light Arrow Cutscene
Bow
Ganon

After the Light Arrow Cutscene, the Master Sword will be back on B.

How do you get archery swordless without bow?

Isn't it possible?

Majora MIM wrote

How do you get archery swordless without bow?

Good point. It isn't possible to play without a bow.. is it..
Ohh well. :P

bumping because people should run this

TaylorTotFTW wrote

bumping because people should run this

Challenge:

ACCEPTED

Something to keep in mind when running this: it uses the old switch trick where you dump a bottle, recatch, and do an RBA backflip (doesn't actualy RBA ;)) onto a switch. Adding the time it takes to dupe with the time it takes to dump, recatch, and backflip, you should be able to attempt the new method (using Letter) three to five times and still save time. These are rough calculations, however... Still, no need for dupe and two fish. ^_^