Why it works is because a deku sticks and many other items have the put away effect from TSC. So you can find the angle and use a deku stick to clip through the guy.
I've messed around with deku stick TSC. However, I have had zero luck with forest escape. I don't even feel that I'm close. Are you sure it's possible?
Yes, I am sure that it works, you just need to time it before the normal put away effect, and also, look slightly to the left of the black mark on the wall past the sign. That's where you clip.
I remember somebody saying that TSC escape was possible with a deku stick, but I dont see how as you dont get a put away boost from the broken stick. Is there anybody here who has actually somehow done it that can confirm it?
ok forest escape doesn't work with a deku stick like that, what you saw is someone miss wording how it works, you use the sword slashes 3 times then use a deku stick instead of put away button which makes it so you don't accidently talk to the guy blocking your way out of the forest that much.
could be wrong but i think that is how it was suppose to be explained if it just works with a deku stick alone then enlighten us
ok so I was wondering....
we all know we can get to Jabu-Jabu's belly as an adult (because the portal/entrance is still opened even as an adult)...but does the same effect work as a kid? like can we enter ganon's castle as a child? or did the JJB one work because the map doesn't change at all kid link or adult link (which would mean leaving the entrance in the same spot...)?
we all know we can get to Jabu-Jabu's belly as an adult (because the portal/entrance is still opened even as an adult)...but does the same effect work as a kid? like can we enter ganon's castle as a child? or did the JJB one work because the map doesn't change at all kid link or adult link (which would mean leaving the entrance in the same spot...)?
ok so I was wondering....
we all know we can get to Jabu-Jabu's belly as an adult (because the portal/entrance is still opened even as an adult)...but does the same effect work as a kid? like can we enter ganon's castle as a child? or did the JJB one work because the map doesn't change at all kid link or adult link (which would mean leaving the entrance in the same spot...)?
I'm no game designer, I don't know what can and can't be done, but I suppose anything is possible. However, if the loading zone was still there for Ganon's Castle at young Link, how exactly would we get to it? One we don't know where it would be, two even if it was there as young link, it would be some place unreachable. I'm most likely wrong here because, once again, I am no game designer, and I do not understand the technical aspects of this game very well.
Ill take a pic of the mini map as kid link and I also take a pic of the mini map as adult link and overlay them with photo shop so we can see the difference (and where the entrance is ;D)
Ill take a pic of the mini map as kid link and I also take a pic of the mini map as adult link and overlay them with photo shop so we can see the difference (and where the entrance is ;D)
Go for. I don't really think that X and Y axis will be a problem though. I'm thinking the real problem would be the Z axis (up and down)
I'm pretty sure that Ganon's Castle and Hyrule Castle are totally different maps in the original OoT, if i'm not mistaken. Now, considering would they would need to do to get both to share the same exact region, I don't see any reason why Grezzo would make them the same place.
Then again, they could have been lazy and copy certain aspects of the Hyrule Castle map and paste it into the Ganon's castle map. I still think it unlikely.
Then again, they could have been lazy and copy certain aspects of the Hyrule Castle map and paste it into the Ganon's castle map. I still think it unlikely.
I have never played this game but I know original OoT pretty well. If what were trying to figure out actually works then wouldn't there be a way to get into the fairy fountain near Ganons castle as young link? If both maps are connected then I don't see why that entrance would be excluded. Like I said I've never played OoT3D and as for glitching the game in general I'm no good, but if I'm reading this right I don't see why this wouldn't work either (if the castle is reachable as child in the first place). Sounds like a lot of bomb hovering to me
Too bad there is no bomb hovering in oot3d :P
ok so I was wondering....
we all know we can get to Jabu-Jabu's belly as an adult (because the portal/entrance is still opened even as an adult)...but does the same effect work as a kid? like can we enter ganon's castle as a child? or did the JJB one work because the map doesn't change at all kid link or adult link (which would mean leaving the entrance in the same spot...)?
The reason you can enter Jabu-Jabu as an Adult is because the child and adult versions of Zora's Fountain are the same scene, and because the exits of any scene are always loaded regardless of what age or time it is.
Scene setups are what makes the child and adult versions of Zora's Fountain different. They are basically just different actor lists that are loaded depending on whether a cutscene should play, or if Link is a child or an adult and if it's day or night out.
On the other hand, Hyrule Castle and Ganon's Tower are actually two completely different scenes, so the exits in the Hyrule Castle area don't exist in the Ganon's Tower area, and vice versa.
One rather nifty thing about Hyrule Castle/Ganon's Tower though is that when you hit an exit that leads to this area (like Great Fairy Fountain -> Hyrule Castle/Ganon's Tower), the same entrance index is used to put you at both places; the game uses Link's age to determine which scene to ultimately load. So for example, if you wrong warp to the inside of Ganon's Tower as a child and left normally, you'd end up in the Hyrule Castle map instead of Ganon's Tower.
Id like to do a NG+ MST segmented run. This way it looks better can record better etc. I can also show cool timesavers. (many RI warps, insane spirit timesaver) So can a new category be created?
Last edited 17 Aug 2012, 14:51 by Pedalpowertoast.
One rather nifty thing about Hyrule Castle/Ganon's Tower though is that when you hit an exit that leads to this area (like Great Fairy Fountain -> Hyrule Castle/Ganon's Tower), the same entrance index is used to put you at both places; the game uses Link's age to determine which scene to ultimately load. So for example, if you wrong warp to the inside of Ganon's Tower as a child and left normally, you'd end up in the Hyrule Castle map instead of Ganon's Tower.
has anyone discovered a ww to Ganon's castle yet(I was actually thinking about getting there like that as well ;D)? also sorry I haven't gotten any pics yet...I'm busy with work atm......
and how many other spots can you actually do the JJB glitch?(if you know what I mean...)
has anyone discovered a ww to Ganon's castle yet(I was actually thinking about getting there like that as well ;D)? also sorry I haven't gotten any pics yet...I'm busy with work atm......
and how many other spots can you actually do the JJB glitch?(if you know what I mean...)
So far all attempts to wrong warp to Ganon's Castle have resulted in a crash. I suppose there could be some more testing with it, but I'm doubtful that it can be done.
Right now there are no spots similar to JJB. I mean there are a couple loading zone glitches like trials skip, but no spots exactly like JJB.
Id like to do a NG+ MST segmented run. This way it looks better can record better etc. I can also show cool timesavers. (many RI warps, insane spirit timesaver) So can a new category be created?
I'd also like a segmented MST category. It would be a better way to show off all of the cool tricks. What is this insane Spirit time saver?
Last edited 17 Aug 2012, 18:37 by benstephens1000.
Youll see it in the run ;)
Youll see it in the run ;)
I hate surprises -______-
Really? Not even a hint for your old pal Ben, who even nursed you back to health when you were sick, and was there for you when no one else was. Man that's cold.
Last edited 17 Aug 2012, 23:19 by benstephens1000.
back to what I was saying about Ganons castle as a child heres the opposite of that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9ywj4glV0&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9ywj4glV0&feature=related
If you guys ever try to do OOT3D bingo with OOT cards, don't. It's not as good of an idea as it seems -___-
loooool^
is there a DoT skip for the 3d version yet?...
is there a DoT skip for the 3d version yet?...
If you wrong warp from Fire temple (requires hammer B and other stuff) you can warp into the DoT opening cutsnene. Not really a DoT skip, but you can skip the stones though.
that's not bad....is there a vid of this?/can you send me a link? ;D
I dont think theres a vid, but maxx has a vid where he beats the fire temple as child, which im pretty sure you've already seen.
Hey guys just a heads up... if you get Mirror shield early be careful in the room in the spirit temple with the rotating mirror and the floormaster because if you shine light on two of sun faces with you mirror shield before one of there mini cutscene things can activate, it will crash your game... I just wish that I could have known this before I was 2:15 into an almost flawless MST run :(
EDIT: After trying to replicate this crash, I was unable to. It seems that this is just a very silly thing that could happen to anyone, not just speedrunners who got Mirror shield early... which is very disappointing to me because I was well on track for a WR :(
EDIT: After trying to replicate this crash, I was unable to. It seems that this is just a very silly thing that could happen to anyone, not just speedrunners who got Mirror shield early... which is very disappointing to me because I was well on track for a WR :(
Last edited 21 Aug 2012, 06:36 by benstephens1000.
Ben, theres more to this than you know ;) (im evil)
(i actually forgot you can do that :-[ 1 min lost i suck)
(i actually forgot you can do that :-[ 1 min lost i suck)
Last edited 21 Aug 2012, 07:46 by Pedalpowertoast.
Ben, theres more to this than you know ;) (im evil)
(i actually forgot you can do that :-[ 1 min lost i suck)
Actually, you can't shine light on the one that opens the door... from what I've tried, which is stupid.
EDIT: Yep you need to hold light on the face or the bars will close over the door again.
Last edited 21 Aug 2012, 08:16 by benstephens1000.
I already knew about this. Sorry that it happened Ben. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw6FUFCxvFc
Damn I wish that I had known that. There was a video for it too :(
Damn I wish that I had known that. There was a video for it too :(
welcome to my life.....
Alright so for my past 2 runs, after I warp back to the lost woods from desert colossus, Navi has not tired to talk to me, so I had to save quit, wasting like 2 minutes. Anyone have any ideas why this happens?