Low% Segmented

Why hasn't this topic been created yet...

Anyways, with the new Silver Block Skip, I drafted a new route:

Segment 1:
-Intro
-Save

Segment 2:
-21R
-Kokiri Sword
-Save

Segment 3:
-29R
-Deku Shield + Stick
-Equip Sword, Shield, Stick
-Save

Segment 4:
-Old School Forest Escape
-Peahat Superslide to GV
-Cucco Jump
-Save in Fortress

Segment 5:
-Gate Skip
-Cross Wasteland
-Enter Spirit Temple
-Save

Segment 6:
-Nabooru
-Kill Armos and Keese
-Light torches in next room
-Stalfos megaflip or green bubble boost
-Get key
-Save

Segment 7:
-Back to Armos room
-Use key
-Work up to room with Bombchus
-Hover off Lizalfos to hit the crystal switch to drop Bombchus
-Get Bombchus
-Shine light (9 chus)
-Go up to torch room and do puzzles for key (8 chus)
-Back to main room
-Get on statues shoulder and jump on the neck to get to the adult side
-Make way all the way up to the top on adult side (7 chus)
-Iron Knuckle (break stick while fighting)
-Mirror Shield and Save

Segment 8:
-Forest Escape w/ Bombchu Megaflip (6 chus)
-Chu SS from grass (5 chus)
-To Kakriko
-Cucco Collecting for Bottle
-To Graveyard
-Reveal Bugs
-Dupe Bottle over Deku Sticks w/ Bugs
-Catch Poe in Cucco Bottle
-Save

Segment 9: (possible to split this segment up after RBA)
-Forest Escape w/ Bombchu Megaflip (4 chus)
-To Lake Hylia
-To Fishing Pond
-Gold Scale
-Steal Rod while leaving
-Sticks on B
-Grab Ruto's Bottle
(depending on time of day, may want to leave RBA steps till after entering market)
-Drop bugs from duped bottle
-Bottle on B w/ duped bottle
-RBA Chus w/ Poe (29 chus)
-RBA Ruto's Letter for one arrow
-Bottle Switch trick, catching bugs in Ruto's Bottle for later OI
-Reequip Sword, Duped Bottle
-Owl back to market
-To castle
-Bombchu boost for moat skip (28 chus)
-Cutscene skip with Bombchu (27 chus)
-To ToT
-DoT Skip
-Master Sword and Light Medallion
-Equip Mirror Shield and save

Segment 11:
-To kakariko
-To graveyard
-Shadow early with chu SS warp (26 chus)
-Save in shadow

Segment 12:
-Megaflip first gap (25 chus)
-Bird statue
-Another megaflip (24 chus)
-To the spinning scythe room
-Jumpslash SB and jump to boat wheel
-Ocarina Items to ride the boat
-Bombchu the pillar (23 chus)
-Get the Boss Key from the spikewall room in the maze
-Go to Bongo Bongo (will need a bombchu megaflip in the last room) (22 chus)
-Shadow Medallion
-Go up death mountain and get magic (20 chus)
-Save

Segment 13:
-To Gerudo Valley
-Chu Megaflip with ISG over gap (19 chus)
-Save in fortress

Segment 14:
-To the top of the fortress (over small wall) (17 chus)
-Megaflip gate skip (16 chus)
-Cross the wasteland
-Save in Spirit Temple

Segment 15:
-Jiano’s Silver Block Skip (14 chus)
-Key from silver rupee room (13 chus)
-To main room
-To the upper door
-Get to the Anubis and Beamos room and kill all enemies
-Get key in room accessed from shining light on sun
-Get to the big moving wall and carefully climb up [use chus to clear out enemies] (11 chus)
-Get Boss Key
-To the mirror room
-Blow up the rock wall in the maze and shine light on the big mirror (10 chus)
-Get on the platform that will lower, lure a flying pot with magic at you, shield it and shine light at the sun while the magic is falling
-Destroy the face
-Make sure the magic landed on the platform and activate ISG from it
-Hover to boss door (3-5 chus)
-Iron Knuckle and Twinrova
-Spirit Medallion
-Save

Segment 16:
-Light Arrow
-Ganon’s Castle
-Save

Segment 17:
-Spirit Trial chus (23-27 chus)
-Spirit Armos Trial Skip
-Save

Segment 18:
-Up the tower
-Ganondorf
-Escape
-Ganon (use mid-air shield dropped chus to hit his tail on phase one)
-Look at your calendar, realize you’ve been attempting for three years


Thoughts about the extra chus? Spirit trial chus would be skippable, but it would require harder tricks that ZFG said he wasn't is going to do (wall climb w/o killing enemies, etc)

Anyways, the current 16 items:
Kokiri Sword - Needed for Cucco Jump, Stealing the Rod as a Kid, and DoT Skip
Deku Shield - Needed for Forest Escape w/o Fairy Ocarina and Child Spirit Bombchus
Deku Stick - Needed for Child Spirit Chus, the most likely item to be skipped if we find another bombchu source
Bombchus - Needed for various tricks, including Silver Block skip without hover boots, Egg and Chicken skip, Hover to Spirit Temple boss door, Shadow Temple megaflips, and for blowing up various walls on Death Mountain and in the Spirit Temple
Ruto's Bottle - Needed to RBA an arrow and thus skip Bow and Quiver
Golden Scale - Needed for Ruto's Bottle
Cucco Bottle - Needed to RBA Ruto's Bottle, Dupe bottle for RBA Bombchus and for OI
Mirror Shield - Needed for Shadow without Nocturne and Silver Block skip, absolutely necesary for Twinrova
Zelda's Lullaby - Needed to get Magic
Zelda's Letter - Needed to get Zelda's Lullaby (well, more like obtained automatically when you get the Lullaby)
Master Sword - Needed to become adult, needed for Hover to Spirit Temple boss door
Light Medallion - Needed to become adult (well, more like obtained automatically when you become adult)
Shadow Medallion - Needed to get Light Arrows, needed to create the rainbow bridge
Spirit Medallion - Needed to get Light Arrows, needed to create the rainbow bridge
Magic - Needed to use Light Arrows
Light Arrows - Needed to kill Ganondorf

Nice, looks great :P
can't wait to see it in use :)

RingRush, I am disappoint.  Poe can't go in a duped bottle >_>.  How am I gonna ISG megaflip gerudo bridge with chus?  I'm editing the route now.

Edit: done

I highly disapprove of your route, and think it is much slower.

1. Why make an extra fishing trip as adult (and force yourself to get well chus while you are at it)? Just RBA as a child...if you can't catch poe in a duped bottle, just catch it in the cucco bottle, and use duped bottle for bottle B.
2. Surely with proper timing you can megaflip bridge with a chu. Even if you can't, just get the spirit chu chest in addition to my previous route.

This is relevant to my interests.

Bombchu megaflip is possible. Took a few minutes of trying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB9Fvg_gKlk

Who is attempting this? I might try to attempt it if I feel like it.

I will attempt (maybe record, but probably not because i suck...)
I cant do the old school forest escape to save my life (unless its on an emulator D:<)
the rest of the route save a few places is not that tricky. low% spirit is easier than you'd think
I got the bubble boost 1st try, and lizaflos hover on my 2nd attempt.

Is this route good for all versions?

I beat this shit.  I want my medal now.

And yes pokey, thanks to chu megaflip over gerudo valley gap and 2 chu block skip.

Isn't there a 15 item run, ZFG?

No, you're a nub for thinking you can skip sticks >_>.

Low% SS route v1.0

-Intro
-Kokiri Sword
-Deku Shield
-Equip, then old school escape
-To castle (get 20 rupees from chains)
-Get Chicken and Egg
-Up to Talon, move boxes while waiting for day
-Wake Talon up, cross moat
-Lullaby and Letter
-To Kakriko
-Cucco collect for bottle
-Dive down well
-Skulltula clip for chus (10 chus)
-Back to Kakriko
-To Graveyard
-Hylian Shield from grave
-Hover to seam (7 chus)
-Shadow Early
-Megaflip gap (6 chus)
-Hover Boots
-Deathwarp to start
-Back to Graveyard
-Reveal bugs
-Dupe bottle over Zelda’s Letter
-Catch Poe in Cucco Bottle
-To Lake Hylia
-To Fishing Pond
-Gold Scale
-Steal Rod
-Enter water, Deku Sticks on B
-Ruto’s Bottle
-Drop bugs in ZL bottle, Bottle on B, RBA one arrow
-RBA Poe for 29 chus
-Try to catch bugs in ZL bottle, use bottle switch trick to put them in Ruto’s Bottle
-To Temple of Time
-Re-equip Kokiri Sword and DoT Skip
-To Kakriko
-To graveyard
-Shadow early again (26 chus)
-Backwalk hover first gap
-Bird statue
-To the spinning scythe room
-Jumpslash SB and jump to boat wheel
-Ocarina Items to ride the boat
-Bombchu the pillar (25 chus)
-Get the Boss Key from the spikewall room in the maze
-Go to Bongo Bongo
-Shadow Medallion
-Go up death mountain and get magic (23 chus)
-To Gerudo Valley
-Crouch stab hover boost across gap
-To the top of the fortress (over small wall) (21 chus)
-Old school gate skip
-Cross the wasteland
-Hover Boot Silver Block skip
-Key from silver rupee room
-To main room
-To the upper door
-Get to the Anubis and Beamos room and kill all enemies (20 chus)
-Up to Mirror Shield
-Get key in room accessed from shining light on sun
-Get to the big moving wall and carefully climb up [use chus to clear out enemies] (18 chus)
-Get Boss Key
-To the mirror room
-Blow up the rock wall in the maze and shine light on the big mirror (17 chus)
-Get on the platform that will lower, lure a flying pot with magic at you, shield it and shine light at the sun while the magic is falling [R-R-RUN BREAKER]
-Destroy the face
-Make sure the magic landed on the platform and activate ISG from it
-Hover to boss door (11 chus)
-Iron Knuckle and Twinrova
-Spirit Medallion
-Back across desert
-Thrown out by guards
-Jump in the river
-To Temple of Time
-Light Arrow
-Ganon’s Castle
-Spirit Trial chus if needed
-Spirit Armos Trial Skip
-Up the tower
-Ganondorf
-Escape
-Ganon (use mid-air shield dropped chus to hit his tail on phase one)
-Attempt low% mst

19 items:
+Hover Boots for DoT Skip and for feasible adult
+Hylian Shield for DoT Skip
+Egg & Cucco because Child Spirit Chus would leave you stuck in the wasteland without savewarp, and would be extremely difficult
-Deku Stick because of Well Chus w/ Egg and Cucco
Other 15 items are the same

RingRush wrote

Low% SS route v1.0

-Hylian Shield from grave
-Hover to seam (7 chus)

It would be day so you couldn't get Hylian Shield. And why hover to seam when you can chu teleport?

Well in that sense, wouldn't it be better to grab the 40 rupees from the chains both times you go to town market, then grab the shield from the shop?

also,

Quote

-Get on the platform that will lower, lure a flying pot with magic at you, shield it and shine light at the sun while the magic is falling [R-R-RUN BREAKER]
-Destroy the face
-Make sure the magic landed on the platform and activate ISG from it

>_____________________________________________________> This would suck to pull off SS.

Yeah, as Ani noted you can always get the shield from the shop. Also, ZFG found a trick to make the magic ISG possible to attempt multiple times, as long as you don't get the jar itself. But yeah, it still sucks.

The Official Low% Item Ruling Guide v2:

1. Any item that appears in your Item Subscreen counts. (e.g. bottle, megaton hammer, light arrows)
1a. All items in the same slot (even if they are at different times) in your item subscreen count. (e.g. if you get Egg, then Cucco, it counts as two items; the same is true of hookshot and longshot, etc)
1b. Previous items are not assumed in any item. (e.g. if you get Zelda's Letter, you do not automatically get Egg and Cucco)
1c. Transforming an item into a bottle does NOT count as an additional item (e.g. turning Deku Sticks into a bottle with bottle duplication)
1d. Using bottle duplication to get a bottle on an empty slot does NOT count as an additional item

2. An item that appear on your Equipment Subscreen counts. (e.g. quiver, master sword, iron boots)
2a. Kokiri Boots and Tunic do not count, since they are obtained at the start and are never "collected".
2b. All items in the same slot (even if they are at different times) in your item subscreen count. (e.g. if you get Bomb Bag, then Big Bomb Bag, it counts as two items)
2c. As a clarification for 2b, Giant's Knife and Broken's Giant Knife are two different items.
2d. Previous items are not assumed in any item. (e.g. if you get Golden Scale, you do not automatically get Silver Scale)

3. Every Heart Container or Heart Piece counts as one item.
3a. The first three hearts you get do not count, since they are obtained at the start and are never "collected".

4. Any Great Fairy Gift counts as one item. (e.g. Magic, Double Magic, Double Defense)

5. Any wallet upgrade counts as one item. (e.g. Giant's Wallet)
5a. The starting wallet does not count, since it is obtained at the start and is never "collected".

6. Any song learned counts as one item. (e.g. Song of Time, Zelda's Lullaby)
6a. Scarecrow's Song counts as one item.

7. Any Medallion or Spiritual Stone counts as one item. (e.g. Light Medallion, Kokiri Emerald)

8. Gerudo License and Stone of Agony count as one item each.

9. Epona and the cow in Link's house count as one item each.

10. Each Golden Skulltula token collected counts as one item. Any reward from the Gold Skulltula House counts based on the other rules. (e.g. Adult's Wallet counts, silver rupee does not)

11. Ammunition does not count as an item. (e.g. arrows, nuts)
11a. To clarify, ammunition-in-themsleves items, such as Deku Nuts and Deku Sticks, do count as one item when they are first picked up.
11b. Anything caught in a bottle is considered "ammunition" and is not counted as an item. (e.g. bugs, fish, poe)
11c. All types of rupees are classified as ammunition

12. Dungeon items do not count as an item. (e.g. Small Keys, Boss Keys, Dungeon Maps, Compasses)

13. Any item obtained in the fishing pond does not count as an item. (e.g. fishing pole, fisherman's hat, 6 lb fish, sinking lure)
13a. If the item obtained would count under a previous rule, it is still counted. (e.g. Heart Piece, Golden Scale)

14. If an item is lost and then regained, it is not counted again. (e.g. burning a Deku Shield and buying another, getting a hylian shield back from a Like Like)

15. If an item that would count under a previous rule appears on B, it counts as obtaining that item.

16. Deleting an item through RBA or any other means does not remove the item from your count.

Sounds good.

100% agreed. Looks like this will make everyone happy from the looks of it :)

Added a note about bottle duping on an empty slot, and added epona and the cow in Link's house as an item.

-Get to the Anubis and Beamos room and kill all enemies (11 chus)

You don't need to do this since you do it as a kid.

Route deleted since it probably doesn't save time (though if we can save one more chu it will)

wait, how is this any different from the other route?

I guess i could find out by checking, but I'm way too lazy atm :P

It half milk RBAs, climbs moving wall in spirit without chus, and does a poe superslide warp instead of house hover to get on shadow seam. In turn, it can skip the spirit trial chu chest. Further analysis makes me think this route isn't much faster, and definietly harder.


Edit: I just made some changes to the original route, using some of the extra chus for ESSes (and made it a chu ss warp for shadow early instead of house hover), and I think the first route would now be faster.

about the first route

mega flip ESSes save no time and are just damn hard to do. you know, you have to do a mega flip without Z targetting. it has a 3 frame timing ;)

just for speed comparison:
backwalking is 13.5 (as adult) and mega flip ESS is 14

so let's say it takes 15 seconds from market to kakariko, a ESS would save 15/27 seconds, so like 0,6 seconds.
rolling alone takes 40 frames, which is 0,6 seconds, so the saved time is 0 ;)


you also wrote "mega flip ESS in hyrule field on the way to kakariko after escaping the forest".
just do a bombchu SS with the bushes to kakariko.
saves way more time

I finally beat Low%. Pause buffering made it quite a bit easier but it was still a bitch.

Grunz, any ideas for the leftover chus?

Hey i just thought of something - if having deku sticks on b (but not having them in your inventory) counts as obtaining sticks, then why doesn't the same apply to bombs on c-down when you become adult?

is it because the bombs on c-down are unusable unless you rba an amount of them?

Goddamnit Ing, you know this is just gonna end up with you typing in all caps and saying fuck in the irc
Leave it alone :V

AniMeowzerz wrote

Goddamnit Ing, you know this is just gonna end up with you typing in all caps and saying fuck in the irc
Leave it alone :V

no u