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15 game marathon

Started by Cosmo · 17 Dec 2009 · 146 replies

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15 game marathon

#1
http://zeldaspeedruns.com/junk/all_game_marathon.php

Who wants to run?

This is just an idea of who we could get to do which games. There is no planned date right now, just as an interest test.

Post the games you would want to run, IF YOU CAN STREAM

Lets see if we can actually fill this up before we actually decide on a date or time

Also tell us if you think the estimated times should be tweaked here and there

These will all be on console

Last edited 17 Dec 2009, 09:37 by Cosmo.

Re: possible 13 game marathon

#2
I could possibly run ST, but im not sure how i would stream it

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#3
I'd love to be the runner or a backup for oot once i can stream :)

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#4
Runner or backup for OoT.  Nothing else currently, but I've been playing other games lately (MM), so if I feel comfortable enough for a backup, I'll let you know.

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#7
Adventures of Link is something I'd love to do. I just don't know the route or strats and tricks, or if I have to use the walking glitch.

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#8
Whoever does oracle of ages will probably have to run oracle of seasons as well and vice versa to truly beat both games.  Someone could beat one of the games and the next runner could use the password that was obtained when the first game was completed.  I'm not sure if it would be faster to use the game link cable though.  I will volunteer to run oracle of ages if the time comes, but I don't currently have anything that can stream videos or a dvd recorder.  So I guess I'll sign up as a backup runner for now.      

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#9
I'm willing to run or backup TP, MC, either/both Oracle(s), or LA, assuming I get a new webcam/capture card.

EDIT: Can Blizz really do MC sub 2:20 one try?  OoS looks like a stretch as well.

Last edited 17 Dec 2009, 03:44 by SD2.

Re: possible 13 game marathon

#10
to ZFG: No.

post better estimates if you know them


please note that nothing on the page is set in stone

Last edited 17 Dec 2009, 04:37 by Cosmo.

Re: 15 game marathon

#11
I'm able to try OoT again if everyone's ok with it, but I'd pretty much only try if it's a weekend and I'm home. It's good to see others can take it too though. A good estimate is 1:20. I understand giving others a crack at it though since it's so popular, and pretty much anyone can sub 1:30 with a little practice, you just have to know what to do with the RBA steps and then really you can't screw it up by that much.

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#12
I'd do MC

who'd do TP?
if Jiano did TP, ZFG should do MM. ZFG is probably really skilled at MM, too, so he is the best choice for it

but I'd say it's probably best to have Jiano for MM, because nobody else can play the shit out of the game like Jiano ;)

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#13
What about warp glitches in LA and alttp? Cant those bring down these games to about 10 minutes? Or are they TAS only?


Whoever does oracle of ages will probably have to run oracle of seasons as well and vice versa to truly beat both games.  Someone could beat one of the games and the next runner could use the password that was obtained when the first game was completed.  I'm not sure if it would be faster to use the game link cable though.  I will volunteer to run oracle of ages if the time comes, but I don't currently have anything that can stream videos or a dvd recorder.  So I guess I'll sign up as a backup runner for now.      

I think there are emulators that have an internet-link-function. So that would be an option.
Let's face it we have to play the handheld games on an emulator anyway. The only other way would be the gameboy player and not many people have one of these.


Oh and can we do the stream on blogtv next time? I don't like that ustream doesn't record the chat with the video. A lot of the runners comments have no context this way.

Last edited 17 Dec 2009, 16:57 by Slowking.

Re: 15 game marathon

#14
I'd happily do wind waker again, unless something major came up. Would be nice if we could get backups for this game >_>

Also, if I had a gameboy player and the skills, I would have been willing to backup for aLttP, TMC, Adventures of Link and Zelda 1. Sadly no though. (dont put me up there as possible runner for any of those though lol)
EDIT ^: Oh, and also Links Awakening. forgot about that one :/

NOW what we need to do is organize a 100% 15 game marathon all under 60 hours AMIRITE? ;]

Also in ZFGs favor, I do nominate MST as a special feature after the marathons done? would be supercool to watch

Last edited 17 Dec 2009, 19:51 by AniMeowzerz.

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#15
Slowking: Yeah, you are able to do the warp glitches in those games. ALttP is very easy to do it in for example. But if they are used, they should be played through "normally" as well, without warps. So like first warping and then normal playthrough, or vice versa.

I'm talking to Wak now and he seems to be interested, but it's unsure if he has the equipment for it yet. More to that later...

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#16
I'd probably join in and stream if I didn't have this damn night vision webcam <_<

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#17

Slowking: Yeah, you are able to do the warp glitches in those games. ALttP is very easy to do it in for example. But if they are used, they should be played through "normally" as well, without warps. So like first warping and then normal playthrough, or vice versa.

I'm talking to Wak now and he seems to be interested, but it's unsure if he has the equipment for it yet. More to that later...

Imo we should play every game as fast as possible every way we can, as long as it's not cheating.
If we start with something like that we can also say "Oh but nobody understands OoT RBA, so we can't use it" or "Oh but the Wrong Warp Glitch in MM distorts the game so much, so we can't use it".
We could play these games in full after the marathon, but in it we should shoot for fastest time, to get the most impressive end time. A really good end time weill atrackt a lot of people to the next marathon (I just assume this is going to be a regular thing) and a good single game time might help us to atrackt more viewers during the current marathon.

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#19
My father's computer has a webcam (that's all you need to stream, right?), so if I'm allowed to use it, I can be the MM back-up player, since nobody else is. OoT has plenty of spots, so just put me down for MM.

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#20
Well my Live Ocarina Run took ~1:50 but I was playing very casually and talking/checking the chat a lot. Plus I had HORRIFIC luck with the DoT Skip(close to 10 minutes killed on it alone, need to practice the pause buffer method). I also had to conger-up a route last minute because I didn't know that the GCN version does RBA differently. I could probably get a ~1:30 if I'm prepared and take it very seriously. People seemed to be very impressed with the quality as well.

It was good practice for me anyway, I'll definitely be ready to run/backup in the marathon coming up(if it happens).

Last edited 19 Dec 2009, 04:21 by aleckermit.

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#21

Imo we should play every game as fast as possible every way we can, as long as it's not cheating.
If we start with something like that we can also say "Oh but nobody understands OoT RBA, so we can't use it" or "Oh but the Wrong Warp Glitch in MM distorts the game so much, so we can't use it".
We could play these games in full after the marathon, but in it we should shoot for fastest time, to get the most impressive end time. A really good end time weill atrackt a lot of people to the next marathon (I just assume this is going to be a regular thing) and a good single game time might help us to atrackt more viewers during the current marathon.

I agree. We should do the glitch to beat it in 5 minutes.

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#22
What's the point of having LttP and LA on the roster if we're just gonna play them for 5 minutes then?

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#23

What's the point of having LttP and LA on the roster if we're just gonna play them for 5 minutes then?


Agreed. we should do those seperate/after the run. Same goes with OoT MST (And that's only if ZFG will run it, because nobody else will)

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#24

What's the point of having LttP and LA on the roster if we're just gonna play them for 5 minutes then?

Still. It's a zelda game. That's why its called a zelda marathon.

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#26
Put up Wak for ALttP and FSA to begin with, and we'll see what happens :P.

I hope we can get Greenalink for PH, he'll kick ass at the game. I'm going to practice some Four Swords tomorrow with my run partner, I hope we'll do somewhat good...

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#28
Ah come on that's way to late.
Isn't winter brake at the moment? So everybody could practice and we could do it in one or two months. If we wait until July a lot of people will just forget...

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#29
If July is too late, how about the end of January/start of Febuary?

Obviously, this probably won't work for everyone, but it's during my exam break.  Apart from that, I probably won't get too many other opportunities.  This will set it up for the 30th/31st of January, but I know that ZFG, Cosmo, etc want to do an impromptu on the 30th, so it might not work even if everyone is available.

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#30
IMO this shouldn't be the next marathon we do. This one is huge. Our website for 2D Zelda games is still pretty small (like non-existent). We've got 70% OoT players or more and that's it. I think doing it some time next summer would work out better than trying to do it in a month.

And since we've got so many people who can run OoT, why not do one like this:
1) any% RBA run
2) any% no-RBA
3) MST run
4) 100% run

All OoT. That way more people get a chance to play OoT instead of just being a back up.