15 game marathon

If runnerguy isnt going to do OoT then I cold be the runner. If he is then I could be a backup.

I don't know if i read it in this topic or not, but I heard we might use chat commentators? So that the runners can focus purely on the run itself? If I can get a decent microphone by then, I could do some commentating.

USB mics have way better quality than line in microphones, right?

what the fuck is going on with you, aleckermit? :-X

he just said, that he read, that we might use chat commentators and that's no bad idea at all

why are you saying all that shit to bluestarreturns?

I'd actually say, that YOU're filling your time with useless stuff avoiding the real problems in your life ;)
instead of coming here and insulting bluestarreturns, you should go out more often.
I mean, you don't even know bluestarreturns, but you think, you have the right to tell him, that he's a no life and all that stuff

I don't get it :-\

I allready set up a page with a stream for the game, one for the commentator, one for the ZSR IRC and one for the UStream IRC> Don't tell me this aleckermit!  :(

Pretty simple, dont have the stream running in the backround and you won't be distracted by the commentating.


I think commentary is a great idea, and being able to answer the chat makes it all the better

aleckermit wrote

First of all I dont think that you can have 2 audio inputs on Ustream. Second of all... wouldn't that be more distracting to the runners than them talking themselves? I know I wouldn't want someone constantly talking while I try to speedrun. If you ask me, I think you are just trying to fill your time with useless stuff while avoiding the real problems in your life.

Go outside, do some stuff, dance with some hot chicks, and THEN tell me if you want to commentate our marathon. Confidence is all you need. There's something out there for everyone. Go get it.

I DID NOT post that! MAJOR apologies to BlueStarReturns, that is ignorant bullshit.  We had a small Christmas party here last night and I had friends over and I know exactly which asshole typed that... I was showing him the ZSR site then we went in the other room and he played with my computer for a while. He's a rude, judgmental asshole all the time.

Again, I DID NOT POST THAT and I'm deleting it immediately.

PS: I'm changing my password just in case.

remember folks, never let some random n00b use your computer when you're away.

Yeah once my friend posted on sda along the lines of calling me a "cock sucker" who likes "little boys" and smells his own farts..... I deleted it immediatly lol <_<

It's okay, alec. I didn't even know about it til after you deleted it. I had an impression though that you don't talk like that anyway while watching your run, so even if I had seen it, I probably would've reacted somewhat like Grunz did. Though I would've just said, "WTF?"

Anyways, if I get a chance to be a commentator, I need to know some things and if I have to buy some things:

- Can you stream with a built-in webcam on a laptop? Or does it have to be a hook-up webcam?
- Where do you get streaming software? Is it free or do you buy it at a store?

I will be new to streaming when doing this, but not to commentating. I have done some commentaries on both of my Youtube Channels. The questions apply to the streaming. If I can get basic answers, I should be able to figure it out easily.

If we decide to use chat commentators, I'd be up for a few shifts. Especially during OoT as it's my favorite Zelda.

I'll check back to see what the decision and the answers are.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLAAuoOe6bc - This is an update on my youtube channel. It tests my rock band usb mic quality. would this be good enough quality for commentating? I personally think it sounds a lot better than my line-in mic. No longer The Storm Cloud of Skype, perhaps?

I use my computer's built in webcam for streaming.

Also, no software is needed, just make an account on ustream, allow the site access to your camera and mic, and you're good to go.

For streaming the games, though, it's different, right?

I heard you need some kind of AV-to-USB cable or something. I mean, most people would like to see the game and not the tv with the game...

I'm thinking of doing some game streaming in the future, that's why I'm wondering.

Thanks for the answer, SD2!

Well here's the thing BSR: not everyone can afford to grab capture cards to stream games, so webcams are still a good option. You can use your built-in one, there's nothing against it.
P.S. I didnt check the video but it HAS to be better than that bacon-sizzling, electro-storm crap you got going on with yours
I think my ears are still in pain from that ;_;

Anyways, Webcam + a good mic is all you need. Ustream has a little Broadcast window that pops up, you choose the video device, your mic, start streaming, you're good to go. Not complicated at all =)

psst: I got my EasyCap for $13 off eBay (could have got it for 10, kinda got jipped). It doesnt do a bad job at all, so... it might be worth the risk if you really want to stream straight from your console. it might be more of a hassle than its worth of course but it's an option

Thanks, Ani!

Could you check the video out if you have time? I'd kind of like some feedback on how it sounds from those who would be hearing me on the marathon.

So, it's okay to have the tv in the webcam's view? All right.

BlueStarReturns wrote

So, it's okay to have the tv in the webcam's view? All right.

Of course it is. That's what Jiano had to do for the marathon, there's nothing against it.

Also, I just looked at the video, that is a pretty good mic, it's the same kind as the one I use (though I got mine for a different game). I just set it on a table near my speakers and then I just raise my voice. It'll pick up alot more than you think, you dont need to actually hold it near you lest you are being quiet. Not to mention, Ustream has a volume control for the mic to turn it up and down as necessary, and I think the highest you can put it is 200%.
It's good, no worries, just don't hold it that close to your face. Breathing can distort what you're saying :P

I will keep that in mind.

Should we post what we'd prefer for commentating shift times if we're interested in chat commentating in this topic, too? If so, here's what will work for me:

- If it's a daytime-hours shift, I can be louder but not screaming of course
- If it's nighttime/early morning, I have to be quieter so as not to disturb my roommates.

Either shift will work, but I'd prefer one of the daytime shifts.

Well to be honest with you, I believe someone should only be a commentator if they're a backup runner or know nearly everything about the game exclusively. Cause the most questions are going to be asked about "WTF just happened?" And someone's gotta be there to back it up. I don't know about your knowledge of any of the zelda games, but...

and Shift times, it's kind of hard to say since we don't even have set-in-stone plans or a time roster of any sort. In general, if you can commentate on a game in the daytime, take it. if it's too inconvenient for you, don't do it. Simple enough.

Anyways, with the way things are going for me, I might even be able to backup MM. We'll have to see how well things go but if I get decent enough, I'd be allover that :D

REPLY since I dont want to make another post in this thread:

BlueStarReturns wrote

I see...  :(

That's not to say you can't learn stuff before the next marathon, you know ;)

I see...  :(

AniMeowzerz wrote

Well to be honest with you, I believe someone should only be a commentator if they're a backup runner or know nearly everything about the game exclusively. Cause the most questions are going to be asked about "WTF just happened?" And someone's gotta be there to back it up. I don't know about your knowledge of any of the zelda games, but...

Uh I would love to comment on MM. I'm not good enough to backup run it but I know basically everything about that game. ^^

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Well to be honest with you, I believe someone should only be a commentator if they're a backup runner or know nearly everything about the game exclusively. Cause the most questions are going to be asked about "WTF just happened?" And someone's gotta be there to back it up. I don't know about your knowledge of any of the zelda games, but...

See, Ani, I am just like Slowking, but with OoT instead of MM. I'm not good enough to backup run it, but I know what's going on when I see it. Having seen the any% run done enough times (which I assume is what would be done for the marathon), I have picked up on what's being done and how it's done.

I feel the same way as Slowking. If you at least know what's going on in the run, you should be able to commentate. The skill has nothing to do with it, in my opinion. If I were asking a question in the chat, it wouldn't matter to me if the chat commentator had the skills to back it up or not. As long as they know what's going on in the run, I'd accept their input.

Please don't be mad at me for saying this. I just needed to get my opinions out there on the table.

To be honest, whatever's decided will be fine with me. If I don't get to commentate, that's fine. I'll still support the marathons and will participate in the chat. But, I do think that Slowking and I have raised a point...

I think this is something that should be discussed more, but by those who are in charge of planning the marathons.

Uh... commentating is probably the least of our concerns; it's going to be a hell of a lot harder to get runners for all the games and making sure they all show up.

Besides, I don't really see the point... I mean, who wants to watch a run where a guy's saying "Well he's running now. He has to talk to the cucco lady. He got cojiro! Now he's going to RBA again for a bomb bag and quiver. RBA is..."?

Well I think the commentators aren't a bad idea. If we are going to promote the marathon all over the place there are bound to be a lot of questions. So somebody who can answer them would be a good idea... and ofcourse somebody who can yell STFU up when somebody calls "cheater". Ofcourse we would need to device a way in wich we still have the runner and the game audio in there so that the runner can also comment...

But in general: Come on people!

We don't have anything as of yet.

First of all we need a fixed date to start planing. I still vote sometime in spring break.

Then we need a ruling on how LA and ALTTP will be played. With warp glitches or without? That will determine who can run them and how long it takes.
Let's get to work!

Spring break sounds good, but that's different for different people.

I'm just going out on a loop here, but why not do both runs for LA and ALttP?  Both are no longer than 10 minutes when you include credits (shortened version), so if the respective runners are willing to do both, then do them both.  Obviously, we shouldn't force the issue, and can always do the other one at the end with an entirely different runner if need be.

Might as well say my Spring break is from the 15th of March to the 19th of March.

Hmm didn't know spring break is differnet. Your school system is so confusing...

Well I would argue that we should get the best time for the marathon to promote for future marathons or to promote with during the marathon.
So if LA and ALTTP were to played in full it should be after the marathon as a bonus. Likewise the OoT MST run.

I think sometime during summer would be best.  I know its far away but I think we should try to get pages up for every,  or almost every game so if people want to know how to do a trick we can just link them to the site.

We won't have those pages anyway. :D Or are you going to make them? :p And isn't that what the comentator is for?

Well, I have to agree with ZFG on the choice of summer as when the marathon. Personally, as I'm not even in school, I could do it any time, but I realize fully that this is not the case for many of the members and runners here.

But, I also agree with Slowking and wonder: If we just link the people with questions to the site, is there any other reason to have chat commentators? There might be other stuff in the chat that may not pertain to the run but that people might just want explained.

Of course, what's decided is decided. As I've said before, I'll still participate in the marathon's chat regardless of whether we have commentators or not.

So, my vote for the date is sometime in the summer.

May point out that the chart went down with the site, the page no longer exists.  This is, of course, not true if Cosmo backed it up somewhere.

I believe I have a full backup of /junk/, but until #zelda believes that I didn't hack ZSR I can't do anything really...

Should all of them be SS runs? If so, I can't do one. But if it's segmented, I'm working an Any% WW run.

Marathons are obviously SS runs, that's the main idea of the marathon.
I wonder if I shall rechange some of the LA/OoS/OoA routes to the marathon, as none of them are perfect enough for my test.