You can segment a run of the marathon, if savewarping were faster or whatever, but it obviously needs to be done in one sitting, and the time it takes to reset adds on to the total. Much like the RTA category that has been purposed for OoT.
Then I'd chose SS, I don't know if I can do it but I'll tell you if I can. Unreal could do instead if I can't.
Then I'd chose SS, I don't know if I can do it but I'll tell you if I can. Unreal could do instead if I can't.
Marcus, it's pretty much been confirmed that I'll be doing SS for the marathon lol. No one else has the
Last edited 09 Jan 2010, 01:00 by AniMeowzerz.
I want to do MM D:
By july 2010... man i'll have sub 1:57
true story
By july 2010... man i'll have sub 1:57
true story
So I don't know about you guys but it's just about Spring Break here.
Are we doing this? When?
Are we doing this? When?
oh shit
I totally forgot about this thread OH NO. that means I'm gonna have to play WW when the time comes D:!
I totally forgot about this thread OH NO. that means I'm gonna have to play WW when the time comes D:!
We should obviously do this at least :). But when, that's another question...
You guys are already on spring break? I'm not off for another week and a bit... :(
Anyway, we need to get that chart up again, and then maybe go a bit more indepth with the planning (if we do do this in July).
I'm also thinking we should get viewer opinions on when they would watch it (specific time), what games they would like to watch, and the like so that we can slot the right games in at primetime hours and put the less popular ones on graveyard shift. We also need to account for Europe and maybe Asia/Australia, so the more input we can get the better.
Oh, and I'll take over MC. :P
Anyway, we need to get that chart up again, and then maybe go a bit more indepth with the planning (if we do do this in July).
I'm also thinking we should get viewer opinions on when they would watch it (specific time), what games they would like to watch, and the like so that we can slot the right games in at primetime hours and put the less popular ones on graveyard shift. We also need to account for Europe and maybe Asia/Australia, so the more input we can get the better.
Oh, and I'll take over MC. :P
My spring break is next week.
We should also do some research for a charity that we would like to help raise money for.
We should also do some research for a charity that we would like to help raise money for.
Alright guys, summer is only a few months away and we still have a lot of organizing to do with this.
First, it seems pretty obvious that this widget should be used, I've seen it on nearly every marathon raising money for a charity. It seems easy enough to set up. If we can't put it on the ustream page itself, then we can alter our homepage (we may want to do that anyway) and put it there, and then just link people to www.zeldaspeedruns.com (that may encourage them to check out the site as well). We could put both the stream and this widget on our homepage and then just link everyone to the homepage.
I was looking at some charities and I think the best approach would be to pick one that raises money for children. I like this idea because everyone loves to help kids (which means we raise more money) and lets face it; for all of us to have internet access and play these video games as kids, we are in a pretty fortunate situation. Not all children get to enjoy the things we enjoy. Here is a list of 25 top children's charities, and there are many others as well.
I'm thinking, we can just send a generic email to them, saying something like, "Dear [charity], we are going to be raising money for a gaming marathon and would like to benefit a charity. We have looked into your organization and were wondering if you would like to sponser us. -ZSR Team" or some junk like that. It obviously needs to be worded good but then we just see who we get replies from and pick one. I assume that's how it works, did anyone see/work with SDA when they did their marathon? Or any other marathon?
Ok, on the gaming side of things, we need to get that page back up with runners and back-up runners, as well as commentators if we are going to do that. If we do commentators I say that person is on a skype call AND can be heard in the main stream, OR we set up a secondary account and have that person face a webcam and then have two streams like SDA did (people are probably gonna ask you to take off your shirt because I've seen that multiple times on marathons so you got to say, "If you donate $10 dollars", haha). The goal of the commentator should pretty much just be to interact with the people chatting, and especially answer questions on some of the tricks and glitches the runner does.
The time this should take place should weigh heavily in favor of the 2D ZELDA GAMERS! This is really critical. We've got probably 10+ people that could do OoT under 1:30 (Actually setting up two streams and having a race would be highly entertaining, imo; the loser then has to drop out and we continue to the next game). How many people can run the Minish Cap? Or Zelda II? We need to work the schedule around these people, and then fill in the gaps with the 3D games where we have more options.
Once we do all this, we are going to want to spread the word. We managed to get around 300 viewers at one point for WW (let's face it, not the most exciting game in the series) for only advertising on one day. Imagine what we could do with a few weeks of advertising. Make threads on gaming boards, post youtube videos, put it on your facebook, etc. It's easy to sell because we can state with confidence that we are the fastest Zelda players out there.
So yeah, discuss things I mentioned and state if you can play games and who's gonna be playing what since I looked over the first page and not everyone who posted there is active anymore.
Obviously I'm willing to do OoT as I'll be home during the summer and will have the webcam stream.
First, it seems pretty obvious that this widget should be used, I've seen it on nearly every marathon raising money for a charity. It seems easy enough to set up. If we can't put it on the ustream page itself, then we can alter our homepage (we may want to do that anyway) and put it there, and then just link people to www.zeldaspeedruns.com (that may encourage them to check out the site as well). We could put both the stream and this widget on our homepage and then just link everyone to the homepage.
I was looking at some charities and I think the best approach would be to pick one that raises money for children. I like this idea because everyone loves to help kids (which means we raise more money) and lets face it; for all of us to have internet access and play these video games as kids, we are in a pretty fortunate situation. Not all children get to enjoy the things we enjoy. Here is a list of 25 top children's charities, and there are many others as well.
I'm thinking, we can just send a generic email to them, saying something like, "Dear [charity], we are going to be raising money for a gaming marathon and would like to benefit a charity. We have looked into your organization and were wondering if you would like to sponser us. -ZSR Team" or some junk like that. It obviously needs to be worded good but then we just see who we get replies from and pick one. I assume that's how it works, did anyone see/work with SDA when they did their marathon? Or any other marathon?
Ok, on the gaming side of things, we need to get that page back up with runners and back-up runners, as well as commentators if we are going to do that. If we do commentators I say that person is on a skype call AND can be heard in the main stream, OR we set up a secondary account and have that person face a webcam and then have two streams like SDA did (people are probably gonna ask you to take off your shirt because I've seen that multiple times on marathons so you got to say, "If you donate $10 dollars", haha). The goal of the commentator should pretty much just be to interact with the people chatting, and especially answer questions on some of the tricks and glitches the runner does.
The time this should take place should weigh heavily in favor of the 2D ZELDA GAMERS! This is really critical. We've got probably 10+ people that could do OoT under 1:30 (Actually setting up two streams and having a race would be highly entertaining, imo; the loser then has to drop out and we continue to the next game). How many people can run the Minish Cap? Or Zelda II? We need to work the schedule around these people, and then fill in the gaps with the 3D games where we have more options.
Once we do all this, we are going to want to spread the word. We managed to get around 300 viewers at one point for WW (let's face it, not the most exciting game in the series) for only advertising on one day. Imagine what we could do with a few weeks of advertising. Make threads on gaming boards, post youtube videos, put it on your facebook, etc. It's easy to sell because we can state with confidence that we are the fastest Zelda players out there.
So yeah, discuss things I mentioned and state if you can play games and who's gonna be playing what since I looked over the first page and not everyone who posted there is active anymore.
Obviously I'm willing to do OoT as I'll be home during the summer and will have the webcam stream.
I think focusing on the 2D games seems a little selective. We need to get some input from those who are going to watch the marathon. If we do a focus on the 2D games and put the 3D games in less popular time slots, we're going to lose viewers, its as simple as that.
What I'm thinking is we put out a video on each of our youtube channels (just have 1 person make one then everyone uses it), asking for any info that could be relevant to the marathon. This could be anything from ideal games, to ideal times, dates, etc. With the info, we can craft a schedule and release it a couple of weeks before the marathon. Within this, there is still a slight problem, as many of our channels contain only MM/OoT videos, so it's likely well get a ton of votes for those to be shown at prime hours. We could probably alter the voting and exclude OoT/MM from the vote and just give them a primetime slot right away, but that's something that can probably be discussed later.
With regard to picking a charity, I'm assuming that there would be some outside source that could help us with this. The Speed Gamers host all kinds of marathons, so I'm sure someone from there could help us with the process. If that falls through, I imagine Mike from SDA (where we should also advertise/get input) would be able to help us with stuff like that. Also, we ave players from all over the world, and I assume viewers will be from all over the world, so we should pick an international charity if that's an option.
Apart from that, I agree with everything Runnerguy said. Let's get the planning done on this and do a good job on this. Lets not do a 4/20 repeat.
Also, as far as games go, I'm still good for MC, LA, OoA, and OoS. I'll also do LoZ, AoL, and FSA if it becomes needed.
What I'm thinking is we put out a video on each of our youtube channels (just have 1 person make one then everyone uses it), asking for any info that could be relevant to the marathon. This could be anything from ideal games, to ideal times, dates, etc. With the info, we can craft a schedule and release it a couple of weeks before the marathon. Within this, there is still a slight problem, as many of our channels contain only MM/OoT videos, so it's likely well get a ton of votes for those to be shown at prime hours. We could probably alter the voting and exclude OoT/MM from the vote and just give them a primetime slot right away, but that's something that can probably be discussed later.
With regard to picking a charity, I'm assuming that there would be some outside source that could help us with this. The Speed Gamers host all kinds of marathons, so I'm sure someone from there could help us with the process. If that falls through, I imagine Mike from SDA (where we should also advertise/get input) would be able to help us with stuff like that. Also, we ave players from all over the world, and I assume viewers will be from all over the world, so we should pick an international charity if that's an option.
Apart from that, I agree with everything Runnerguy said. Let's get the planning done on this and do a good job on this. Lets not do a 4/20 repeat.
Also, as far as games go, I'm still good for MC, LA, OoA, and OoS. I'll also do LoZ, AoL, and FSA if it becomes needed.
I can be a backup for Runnerguy, just in case anything happens. I MIGHT be able to do phantom hourglass. I just need to learn hammer early and a few things and I'm good to go.
Good stuff RG.
I agree that we need advertisement WELL in advance and organization needs to be a prime factor. Everyone who has a Youtube account could upload an ad video for it the day of the marathon. I was also wondering if 100% of the proceeds are going to charity or if ZSR is going to keep a small percentage to help run the site?
And I'm up for OoT any% main/backup/race of course and commentating/moderating as well.
I agree that we need advertisement WELL in advance and organization needs to be a prime factor. Everyone who has a Youtube account could upload an ad video for it the day of the marathon. I was also wondering if 100% of the proceeds are going to charity or if ZSR is going to keep a small percentage to help run the site?
And I'm up for OoT any% main/backup/race of course and commentating/moderating as well.
we should meet up irl
in an abandoned church
where nobody can hear you scream...
in an abandoned church
where nobody can hear you scream...
We could have like a mega OoT race with aleck vs. RG vs. ZFG vs. jianobutts vs. me vs. not ing
Fuck guys, I'll start remaking a roster with backup's and narrators. I'm gonna need the FTP pass SOON... I'll re-edit the post when it gets about ready.
EDIT: Alright bitches, I got a little mockup made. Check it out:
http://i.imgur.com/uv5wf.png
Now please post below to add names/times. When I get unbanned from the irc, and I get FTP access I can setup a little mini-site.
EDIT 2: yeah so I added MM twice. It's fixed now, but I'm not re-uploading the pic. That takes bandwidth. precious bandwidth that I just don't have :(
EDIT: Alright bitches, I got a little mockup made. Check it out:
http://i.imgur.com/uv5wf.png
Now please post below to add names/times. When I get unbanned from the irc, and I get FTP access I can setup a little mini-site.
EDIT 2: yeah so I added MM twice. It's fixed now, but I'm not re-uploading the pic. That takes bandwidth. precious bandwidth that I just don't have :(
Last edited 23 Mar 2010, 02:06 by Blizzerk.
Fuck guys, I'll start remaking a roster with backup's and narrators. I'm gonna need the FTP pass SOON... I'll re-edit the post when it gets about ready.
EDIT: Alright bitches, I got a little mockup made. Check it out:
http://i.imgur.com/uv5wf.png
Now please post below to add names/times. When I get unbanned from the irc, and I get FTP access I can setup a little mini-site.
EDIT 2: yeah so I added MM twice. It's fixed now, but I'm not re-uploading the pic. That takes bandwidth. precious bandwidth that I just don't have :(
Where's me for Phantom Hourglass, and backup for OoT?!?!?!? lol
I think focusing on the 2D games seems a little selective. We need to get some input from those who are going to watch the marathon. If we do a focus on the 2D games and put the 3D games in less popular time slots, we're going to lose viewers, its as simple as that.
Very good point, I completely overlooked actual primetime slots and # of viewers; that is very important as well. I was just thinking if a date/time doesn't work for someone on something like Zelda II, and we don't have a backup (or backup can't make that day either), then the whole thing falls apart.
we should meet up irl
I think the closest person to me is Ing. :/
We could have like a mega OoT race with aleck vs. RG vs. ZFG vs. jianobutts vs. me vs. not ing
Not ZFG either since he's a nub who can't stream. But yeah, having OoT be a race would be highly entertaining, and it would improve our chances for a good time.
If I can get my friend to practice some Four Swords with me, I'm sure we'll be able to do that one. Only one player will be streamed if so. I guess I could get an extra Game Boy Player and stream both TVs if wanted.
Other games I could do are (As stated in Blizz' picture) ALttP, LA, OoA and OoS. If I practice LoZ a bit I would probably be able to do that as well.
Wak has said that he could do Four Swords Adventure and/or A Link to the Past. But it's unsure if he will have the equipment for it.
I could ask Arctic Eagle (Norweigian Zelda 2 runner, http://speeddemosarchive.com/Zelda2.html) if he is willing to join in for some Zelda 2 action.
Other games I could do are (As stated in Blizz' picture) ALttP, LA, OoA and OoS. If I practice LoZ a bit I would probably be able to do that as well.
Wak has said that he could do Four Swords Adventure and/or A Link to the Past. But it's unsure if he will have the equipment for it.
I could ask Arctic Eagle (Norweigian Zelda 2 runner, http://speeddemosarchive.com/Zelda2.html) if he is willing to join in for some Zelda 2 action.
Alright so I'm gonna make some edits to the roster, and even upload it to another free hosting site in the mean time.
TO EVERYONE INTERESTED IN THE MARATHON: Practice your left hand games. You don't have to be the best or the fastest, were looking more for consistency (being able to do a trick most times without fucking up, even if it takes longer to do)
Even if the backups aren't used, they are NEEDED because like Runnerguy said, if one game can't be done were boned. I'll edit this once I get the roster up on a free hosting site.
TO EVERYONE INTERESTED IN THE MARATHON: Practice your left hand games. You don't have to be the best or the fastest, were looking more for consistency (being able to do a trick most times without fucking up, even if it takes longer to do)
Even if the backups aren't used, they are NEEDED because like Runnerguy said, if one game can't be done were boned. I'll edit this once I get the roster up on a free hosting site.
i wish i could help you guys
I think I'm gonna be the TP runner (or if not, the backup). I could backup OoT but I don't think it matters, since there are enough good (even better) people who would do it.
My roommate could maybe be the backup for ALttP, as he was practicing it a few weeks back. Tompa is a better choice, though.
My roommate could maybe be the backup for ALttP, as he was practicing it a few weeks back. Tompa is a better choice, though.
As I can't run any zelda games well, I'll volunteer to be a commentator (especially since I have a track record of good commentating). I don't think a stream looking at the commentators would be good, since unlike the SDA run the people talking aren't the zelda speedrunners. A skype voiceover would probably be good. Although, I could stream in between games some entertainment or something...me playing Baten Kaitos? :p (not really :( ). I'm good for 3D games, but we also need people who are pro at 2D games to commentate for those (or at least provide me with a list of tricks and what their purpose is...I've played OoA/OoS/LA/FSA so I can explain everything that isn't an sb pretty easily).
I was looking at some charities and I think the best approach would be to pick one that raises money for children. I like this idea because everyone loves to help kids (which means we raise more money) and lets face it; for all of us to have internet access and play these video games as kids, we are in a pretty fortunate situation. Not all children get to enjoy the things we enjoy. Here is a list of 25 top children's charities, and there are many others as well.
I'm still for the "Get Jijo a Wii so he can play MM any% segmented on it"- charity. :D
... But in all seriousness. How about Child's Play? http://www.childsplaycharity.org/
I like the idea of us gamers being able to relieve childreens suffering with games. And god knows these sick childreen need these games to at least keep a little bit of their childhood alive.
There actually was a woman at PAX East who was also sick a lot as a kid and thus could tell from first hand experience how much it means for these childreen to find some escape in games: http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/pa-the-series/116/
On the gaming side:
I will comment on MM. And I will fight anybody who tries to get in my way. :p
Last edited 13 Apr 2010, 02:18 by Slowking.
child's play sounds good slowi :)
As an added plus maybe (probably not, but hey it would be worth a try) we could get a small plug from penny arcade in their news, which would incraese our viewers by a lot and with that the money we can raise for charity. And isn't that the main reason we do this?
Last edited 13 Apr 2010, 02:44 by Slowking.
Wow that sounds perfect. They've got a Mario Marathon on June 25th so maybe we could go some time in July. I suppose the next step would be to actually set up a page that explains who we are, what we are doing, make it nice looking like, etc. The MarioMarathon had a "how to" page and it looks like we've got a lot of it covered.
After we have a page up and are happy with it, I'd say we email the contact person for Child's Play and see if we can get a blurb on their site linking to our page. From there we'd pretty much have all that stuff out of the way and be able to focus on the games.
After we have a page up and are happy with it, I'd say we email the contact person for Child's Play and see if we can get a blurb on their site linking to our page. From there we'd pretty much have all that stuff out of the way and be able to focus on the games.
hmm we still have the matter to settle how we play games with major sequenz breaks (LA, aLttp, OoT), though. I would propose a compromise.
We do two marathons back to back. One main marathon where we play through all the games as fast as possible and one mini marathon where we play an all temples run of the three games. This way we won't have the fastest time for our real marathon but still have an incentive to be quick in the mini marathon.
We do two marathons back to back. One main marathon where we play through all the games as fast as possible and one mini marathon where we play an all temples run of the three games. This way we won't have the fastest time for our real marathon but still have an incentive to be quick in the mini marathon.
hmm we still have the matter to settle how we play games with major sequenz breaks (LA, aLttp, OoT), though. I would propose a compromise.
We do two marathons back to back. One main marathon where we play through all the games as fast as possible and one mini marathon where we play an all temples run of the three games. This way we won't have the fastest time for our real marathon but still have an incentive to be quick in the mini marathon.
Major sequence breaks imo.
So main and mini marathon that are timed seperately?
Oh and btw. I am against making an OoT race in the marathon. It's a marathon and not a race for a reason. A race would be really fun for us, but it would confuse the hell out of the general viewer and we have to think of them first, since we want their money for charity.
We can race OoT all the time (and in fact we do). But the marathon is not the right place to do it.
Oh and btw. I am against making an OoT race in the marathon. It's a marathon and not a race for a reason. A race would be really fun for us, but it would confuse the hell out of the general viewer and we have to think of them first, since we want their money for charity.
We can race OoT all the time (and in fact we do). But the marathon is not the right place to do it.
Last edited 14 Apr 2010, 00:32 by Slowking.