Bottom of the Well

After a long day of glitching, when your Kokiri cap is covered with the dung and feathers of the domesticated Cucco bird, your B Button is blank and the only item in your inventory is one last Deku Stick, where do you take shelter at night from the Stalchildren?

My favorite place to crack open an ice cold Lon Lon Milk is the Bottom of the Well. It's easy to get in and there is a meager 1 Deku Stick cover charge (free with Kokiri Sword).

What's your favorite save location for a glitched-out character that ran away from the Kokiri Forest before the almighty Deku Tree gave permission?

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

glitchiegoomie wrote

What's your favorite save location for a glitched-out character that ran away from the Kokiri Forest before the almighty Deku Tree gave permission?

Can't beat the Spirit Temple.

Elminster45 wrote

Can't beat the Spirit Temple.

Agreed. The Spirit Temple has an awesome theme song and feel to it.

Elminster45 and aleckermit,

In theory, I agree with you both 100%.

In practice, my certainty diminishes. I must ask you both the following question:

Have you done the Cucco Jump without the Kokiri Sword, with only the Deku Stick on a C-Button?

It is much, much more difficult than a Cucco Jump with the Kokiri Sword on the B-Button (one of the tougher tricks) or even the Deku Stick on the B- Button (an even tougher trick that combines several glitches and tricks).

If you've attempted it, you know that you have to hit the C-Button twice to activate a jumpslash. Easier said than than done when you can't even see what you're doing.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

glitchiegoomie wrote

Elminster45 and aleckermit,

In theory, I agree with you both 100%.

In practice, my certainty diminishes. I must ask you both the following question:

Have you done the Cucco Jump without the Kokiri Sword, with only the Deku Stick on a C-Button?

It is much, much more difficult than a Cucco Jump with the Kokiri Sword on the B-Button (one of the tougher tricks) or even the Deku Stick on the B- Button (an even tougher trick that combines several glitches and tricks).

If you've attempted it, you know that you have to hit the C-Button twice to activate a jumpslash. Easier said than than done when you can't even see what you're doing.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Well with pause buffering I'm sure it's easy, but without then ya that's pretty hard for sure. I've done the DoT Skip with a Deku Stick (no buffering) a few times on GCN. It's pretty tricky considering the GCN's sensitivity and the need to hit the deku stick button twice.

This is why I never do Zora Mask RBA, or save with a Deku Stick or a bottle on B as child.

Actually it's not, it's just that I've never had any reason to do either of the above.

I didn't even know that Cucco jump with Deku Stick on C was even possible. Last time I checked, it takes more frames to pull out the Deku Stick and jumpslash with it than the number of frames that you are in the position to do the Cucco jump and can safely drop the Cucco.

glitchiegoomie wrote

Elminster45 and aleckermit,

In theory, I agree with you both 100%.

In practice, my certainty diminishes. I must ask you both the following question:

Have you done the Cucco Jump without the Kokiri Sword, with only the Deku Stick on a C-Button?

It is much, much more difficult than a Cucco Jump with the Kokiri Sword on the B-Button (one of the tougher tricks) or even the Deku Stick on the B- Button (an even tougher trick that combines several glitches and tricks).

If you've attempted it, you know that you have to hit the C-Button twice to activate a jumpslash. Easier said than than done when you can't even see what you're doing.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Wait

WHAT


Have you done cucco jump with a deku stick? As that is HUGE for low%...DoT Skip and the cucco jump are the only reason we need Kokiri Sword. For something like low% MST, this means the Kokiri Sword may be skippable completely.

RingRush wrote

Wait

WHAT


Have you done cucco jump with a deku stick? As that is HUGE for low%...DoT Skip and the cucco jump are the only reason we need Kokiri Sword. For something like low% MST, this means the Kokiri Sword may be skippable completely.

But how are you thinking to scape the forest then?? from where will you got deku sticks without having the sword??

If I recall correctly, Deku Sticks can be bought.

mzxrules wrote

If I recall correctly, Deku Sticks can be bought.

you're right lol!!!

aleckermit,

With pause buffering almost anything is possible.

Please note that I only play the Ocarina of Time on an original Nintendo 64 console using an original gold cartridge - no Gameshark.

Thanks for corroborating the extreme difficulty of what I am attempting to do.


Elminster45,

It is very possible, but also very difficult, to do a jumpslash while airborne holding a Cucco with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button (having never acquired the Kokiri Sword; having left the Forest early using the Crouch Stab Clip with a Deku Stick).

I have never been able to complete a Cucco Jump over the gate in Gerudo Valley with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button.

I have many times completed the Cucco Jump with only a Deku Stick on the B-Button (having acquired the Kokiri Sword, then blanking the B-Button by leaving the Fishing Pond with the fishing rod as Child Link, and then jumping in the lake). This sequence, however, is time consuming for speed runners, and moot to me.


RingRush,

As noted in my above reply, I have completed the Cucco Jump with a Deku Stick only on the B-Button, but I have not yet been able to complete the Cucco Jump with a Deku Stick only on a C-Button.


Chimpas,

To err is human, to admit it is divine.


mzxrules,

Good eye.



glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

My favorite place to rest is the Shadow Temple. More specifically, the entrance to the Shadow Temple.

Lol I was browsing ZU forums and I saw a few posts by this guy I thought was familiar, came on to ZSR forums, saw the same guy posting in this thread, then I couldn't work magnets.

AkiGrahamShitatsuchi,

Is it possible to enter the Shadow Temple as Child Link with only the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick in your inventory (no Kokiri Sword, no Bombchus, no Bombs) on an N64 console without a Gameshark?

If it is possible, please explain the procedure.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Chimpas wrote

But how are you thinking to scape the forest then??

WESS escape, I've done it before.

RingRush wrote

this means the Kokiri Sword may be skippable completely.

I guess so, but that would use up a lot of deku sticks. Get upgrade before leaving Kokiri forest.

Razor7581,

Your post insinuates that you believe that a Cucco Jump with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button is possible.

Have you ever tried completing this task on an N64 console without a Gameshark? I have tried thousands of times to no avail. I've come very close, but no cigar.

Of course, I obtained the Deku Stick Upgrade before leaving the Forest. Remember, quantity cannot compensate for quality. This is a one in a million trick - if you can't do this with one Deku Stick, then you can't do it.

Major kudos and infinite respect to anyone who can complete the Cucco Jump with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

But you were able to do it with a stick on B? Logically you should be able to do it on C then. If timing is the issue, buffer it.

Enterim,

Please note that I only play the Ocarina of Time on an original Nintendo 64 console with a gold cartridge - buffering is not an option with this antiquated equipment.

With the Deku Stick on the B-Button, the B-Button only needs to be hit once to activate a jumplash while airborne with a Cucco. With the Deku Stick on a C-Button, the C-Button needs to be hit twice in rapid succession to activate a jumpslash while airborne with a Cucco. Easier said than done with an N64 controller.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

glitchiegoomie wrote

AkiGrahamShitatsuchi,

Is it possible to enter the Shadow Temple as Child Link with only the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick in your inventory (no Kokiri Sword, no Bombchus, no Bombs) on an N64 console without a Gameshark?

If it is possible, please explain the procedure.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Shadow Early is possible with just a deku stick and deku shield. ISG off anything with the stick and then lure a poe over to the grass and superslide teleport off it. Not easy, but it's possible. You would not be able to go anywhere in the first room of course with out an explosive.  :P

glitchiegoomie wrote

buffering is not an option with this antiquated equipment.

Does your controller have a Start button? Then you can pause buffer, which is the only method of buffering I know of. I'm told that the frame delay in jumpslashing after taking out the stick makes it impossible though, so best of luck.

glitchiegoomie wrote

Razor7581,

Your post insinuates that you believe that a Cucco Jump with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button is possible.

Have you ever tried completing this task on an N64 console without a Gameshark? I have tried thousands of times to no avail. I've come very close, but no cigar.

Of course, I obtained the Deku Stick Upgrade before leaving the Forest. Remember, quantity cannot compensate for quality. This is a one in a million trick - if you can't do this with one Deku Stick, then you can't do it.

Major kudos and infinite respect to anyone who can complete the Cucco Jump with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Mitjitsu doesn't believe it's possible, but I don't know. I was once going to start a deku stick any % of OoT, but quit after finding steeling the rod without a sword is impossible, for the rod acts as a replacement for the sword and you can't cast it.

Runnerguy2489,

If getting to the Bottom of the Well Early wasn't so easy and fun, I would definitely consider the Shadow Temple.


Enterim,

I have never had any luck with pausing while performing the Cucco Jump. On your advice, however, I will give it a try.


Razor7581,

People once believed that it was impossible for a man to travel to the moon.

The inability to Steal the Rod as Child Link without the Kokiri Sword is a real pain in the Armos. There must be a way...

It has for a long time been a dream of mine to complete the game with only the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick as Child Link.



It seems to me that completing the Cucco Jump with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button is the key to many doors.

Is it possible to clip through the gate in Gerudo's Valley using the Gerudo Guard or the Cucco (make them attack?)?

Is there a way through the gate by landing on the inclined ledge on the cliff below the Guard at end of the bridge?


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

glitchiegoomie are you really a triforce hunter

gfox,

No, I am not a "triforce hunter".

I am, however, a Triforce Hunter.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter.

Wow, you're kidding right...
Anyways, do you know that you can just write that in your sig instead?

glitchiegoomie,

how are you going to hunt the Triforce

glitchiegoomie,

I don't know how the H E Double Lizalfos I can solve your problem.

However, after a long day of masturbating, I like to test things with a blank B and deku nuts on C-Right.

I haven't found anything of relevant interest yet, so I guess I'll Leever you alone. Cheesy


Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher.

Anavrin,

I prefer to do things the difficult way. It helps to give me more headaches and anxiety (two commodities that are in short supply in my life). I like to keep my blood pressure as high as possible.


gfox,

I am going to hunt the Triforce with the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick. I may have to use Bombchus also.

If you were going to hunt the Triforce, what weapons would you take?


Kaztalek,

You have a highly refined sense of Cheeze. My compliments to the chef.

If you are shooting blank shots on the C-Right, perhaps you should try using your left hand instead.



glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

damn keeta you just got devastated

glitchiegoomie,

Good luck, I tip my peahat to you. If you have trouble doing some tricks with luck, be sure to triforce.

Are you using v1.0, 1.1, or 1.2? They aren't much different, but 1.0 has a few more glitches and Goron top of that.

Enterim, Straw Grasper

pooped on

also those puns are pretty much amazing

also beans