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Bottom of the Well

Started by glitchiegoomie · 03 Mar 2010 · 85 replies

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Re: Bottom of the Well

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Enterim,

I use a v1.0 OoT gold cartridge on an original N64 Console - no Gameshark, no Crooked Cartridge.

V1.0 has all the glitches - don't leave the Kokiri Forest without it.


ING-X,

I thank you sincerely for praising my prose.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#33
Exodus122,

This thread was originally about the best place to save a character that has Escaped the Forest with only the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick.

It evolved into a discussion of whether or not it is possible to complete the Cucco Jump with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button. Many ZSR members declared that it is impossible. I declared my belief that it is possible. Furthermore, I suggested other possible methods of getting past the gate in the Gerudo's Valley.

Do you think it is possible to get past  the gate in Gerudo's Valley with only the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick?


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#34
hey glitchiegoomie, sry to burst your bubble but there's no point in not getting the kokori sword in the first place because you definitly need it since you need to plug it in the master sword spot to get adult link. Or, maybe it's possible with a Deku stick on B ?

Re: Bottom of the Well

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Masterluigi wrote

hey glitchiegoomie, sry to burst your bubble but there's no point in not getting the kokori sword in the first place because you definitly need it since you need to plug it in the master sword spot to get adult link. Or, maybe it's possible with a Deku stick on B ?

You don't plug anything to become an adult, you simply pull the Master Sword. It can be done with nothing on B if you decide to beat the 3 child dungeons with just deku sticks.

Also this is a key point a lot of people seem to forget: You cannot get Deku Stick on B without already having the Kokiri Sword. You can't cast the rod without the sword and therefore for stick on B you'd already have had the Kokiri Sword at some point.

Anyway, I didn't hit my pun quota so I'll leever it at that.

Runnerguy2489, Santa Claus Believer

Re: Bottom of the Well

#36
Runnerguy2489,

Is it possible to complete the Door of Time Skip with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button? Or does Link run into the same problem as with the Cucco Jump - not enough time to press the C-Button twice?

If the Door of Time Skip can be performed with only the Deku Stick, can the Bottle Adventure be completed with only the Deku Stick on a C-Button?

Also, do any of the Bottle-On-B tricks work with only the Deku Stick in Link's inventory?

I will be investigating these issues tonight.

If it is possible to get the Deku Stick on the B-Button after Escaping the Forest without the Kokiri Sword, then the Cucco Jump can be completed with ease and the gate in Gerudo's Valley can be passed without ever acquiring the Kokiri Sword.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#38
glitchiegoomie wrote

Is it possible to complete the Door of Time Skip with only a Deku Stick on a C-Button? Or does Link run into the same problem as with the Cucco Jump - not enough time to press the C-Button twice?

If the Door of Time Skip can be performed with only the Deku Stick, can the Bottle Adventure be completed with only the Deku Stick on a C-Button?

Also, do any of the Bottle-On-B tricks work with only the Deku Stick in Link's inventory?

No, because you can't use c-buttons besides the ocarina & a bottle in the ToT. Like Runnerguy and I have said, you can't steal the rod without the kokiri sword. For bottle on B you really couldn't do much of anything if you only had a deku stick because RBA requires trading quest items, and the cool effects of BA are with other items.

Re: Bottom of the Well

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Runnerguy2489,

Should I infer from your last post that you have completely investigated any and all possible glitches / tricks and combinations thereof that may possibly result in getting the Deku Stick on the B-Button without acquiring the Kokiri Sword first?

If your answer is yes, then have you completely investigated any and all possible glitches / tricks and combinations thereof that will get Link past the gate in the Gerudo's Valley without acquiring the Kokiri Sword first? Possible methods include:

1. Cucco Jump with Deku Stick only.

2. Clipping the gate by using either:
      a. Gerudo Guard outside the gate
      b. the Cucco

3. Going under the gate by jumping from the post and landing on the inclined ledge below the gate.

4. Seam-Walking with Cucco on the other side of the valley, then jumping from the right spot and gliding over the gate. (How does the Infinite Sword Glitch affect Seam-Walking and Cucco flights?)

So many glitches, so little time on my Fire Temple Timer.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter







Re: Bottom of the Well

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glitchiegoomie wrote

4. Seam-Walking with Cucco on the other side of the valley, then jumping from the right spot and gliding over the gate. (How does the Infinite Sword Glitch affect Seam-Walking and Cucco flights?)

Can't fly with a cucco with ISG.

Re: Bottom of the Well

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Razor7581 wrote

No, because you can't use c-buttons besides the ocarina & a bottle in the ToT. Like Runnerguy and I have said, you can't steal the rod without the kokiri sword. For bottle on B you really couldn't do much of anything if you only had a deku stick because RBA requires trading quest items, and the cool effects of BA are with other items.


Razor7581,

Thank you for saving me the effort and time I would have wasted trying to Skip The Door Of Time with the Deku Stick only.

Believe me, Princess Zelda shed three tears from her right eye at the exact moment that glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter finally realized after many, many attempts that Link cannot Steal The Fishing Rod As Child Link (http://forums.zelda-infinite.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6240&sid=44d981ecb9609134115e1d98160173be) if the Kokiri Sword is not acquired first. I really wanted to get the Gold Scale first and then Steal The Fishing Rod. This glitch-within-a-glitch really sets my Deku Sticks on fire.

Does the trading sequence as Child Link require the Kokiri Sword?

Can the Bottle-On-B glitch somehow be used to get the Deku Stick on the B-Button, preferably without having to complete the Door of Time Skip and both trajectories of the Bottle Adventure?

http://www.jaytheham.com/zcw/index.php5?title=Ocarina_of_Time:Miscellaneous_Glitches_Bottle_B

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#43
No, ISG prevents you from falling at all. It is possible to get stuck on a ledge with ISG if you try hard enough to fall off, so just seamwalk normally but a degree faster.

Re: Bottom of the Well

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glitchiegoomie wrote

Runnerguy2489,

Should I infer from your last post that you have completely investigated any and all possible glitches / tricks and combinations thereof that may possibly result in getting the Deku Stick on the B-Button without acquiring the Kokiri Sword first?

If your answer is yes, then have you completely investigated any and all possible glitches / tricks and combinations thereof that will get Link past the gate in the Gerudo's Valley without acquiring the Kokiri Sword first?

Yes.

As for getting past the gate without the sword, that's easy. Just go get botw chus with deku sticks. Then ISG off a stick and hover over. It's so easy a Goron can do it.

Runnerguy2489, Sky Temple Searcher

Re: Bottom of the Well

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Runnerguy2489 wrote

As for getting past the gate without the sword, that's easy. Just go get botw chus with deku sticks. Then ISG off a stick and hover over. It's so easy a Goron can do it.

You can also do a chu megaflip over the gate as well. It's more difficult than hovering though.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#46
Enterim wrote

No, ISG prevents you from falling at all. It is possible to get stuck on a ledge with ISG if you try hard enough to fall off, so just seamwalk normally but a degree faster.


Enterim,

So with the Infinite Sword Glitch activated, Link can climb seams, but not fall. Is there a way to deactivate ISG while holding a Cucco on a seam without falling or losing hold of the fowl?



Runnerguy2489 wrote

Yes.

As for getting past the gate without the sword, that's easy. Just go get botw chus with deku sticks. Then ISG off a stick and hover over. It's so easy a Goron can do it.

Runnerguy2489, Sky Temple Searcher



Runnerguy2489,

How on Hyrule does one get the Bombchus at the Bottom of the Well with only the Deku Stick? Please explain.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#47
Razor7581 wrote

You can also do a chu megaflip over the gate as well. It's more difficult than hovering though.



Razor7581,

As I just asked Runnerguy2489, how the Hylia do you get the Bombchus at the Bottom of the Well with only the Deku Stick and the Deku Shield? Please explain in excruciating detail.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#48
If you do the actor glitch method for botw chus you don't need a perfectly timed jumpslash so you can do it with deku.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#49
ZFG wrote

If you do the actor glitch method for botw chus you don't need a perfectly timed jumpslash so you can do it with deku.



ZFG,

I am utterly unfamiliar with the "actor glitch method for botw chus". Please edify this Kokiri green Anoobis.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

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ZFG,

Holy Shell Blade!

Thank you greatly for the information.

This will not allow me to fulfill my dream - to complete the game with only the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick - but it will certainly allow me to progress beyond a quagmire that had me stymied for quite some time.

Much thanks.


bluemarth,

I am glad to see that you have rejoined the quest.

Let water that has passed under the bridge flow.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#53
this is the greatest topic in the history of mankind

i keep running out of popcorn

Re: Bottom of the Well

#55
ING-X wrote

this is the greatest topic in the history of mankind

i keep running out of popcorn


ING-X,

Proving you wrong would be more difficult than Bombchu Hovering to the Chamber of Sages.


Kaztalek wrote

glitchiegoomie,

How big is your dinalfos?

Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher


Kaztalek,

I thought you'd never ask.

My dinalfos is bigger than Biggoron's Sword, thicker than a tumescent Volvagia, with articulated joints much like Dead Hand's Hands' arms and an explosive power equal to the detonation of 69,000 Bombchus simultaneously.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#58
glitchiegoomie,

Oh wow, I'm getting wetter than a tektite drowning in Lake Hylia.

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to nut hover off my deku scrub until I drip 23 bottles worth of lon lon milk.

Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher

Re: Bottom of the Well

#59
Kaztalek,

You're a dirty little Kokiri Forest Child, aren't you?

As far as the secretions are concerned, I tend to have that effect on all the girls.

Try taking a dip in Lake Hylia - it's very cold this time of the year.

Please try to control your emotions and stay focused - is it possible to complete the Cucco Jump with only the Deku Shield and a  Deku Stick? If not, is there another way past the gate without getting the Bombchus?


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#60
glitchiegoomie,

Sorry to burst your Blue Bubble, but I'm a man.

Hopefully that's what you like like ;).

Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher
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