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Bottom of the Well

Started by glitchiegoomie · 03 Mar 2010 · 85 replies

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Re: Bottom of the Well

#61
Kaztalek,

Isn't "hermaphrodite" the correct term for a "man" that has both male and female sets of genitalia?

How interesting.

You are the first hermaphrodite that I ever met in my life. Does it bother you to talk about it? Tell ZSR all about it. Who do you dream about at night? Do you stand or sit? Can you do "it" to yourself? Does ZSR provide a gender dropdown option for "Hermaphrodite"?

If you would rather not talk about it, I understand - it must be quite embarrassing. My condolences.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#63
yeah that happened quick and it just keeps getting better
prepares moar popcorn

Re: Bottom of the Well

#65
Someone sticky this thread, please.

Cheesy

Last edited 17 Sep 2010, 03:16 by AxonZin.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#66
Enterim,

This topic has turned more secret passages than Dampe's Ghost trying to hang onto his last fireball.


ING-X,

Could you please share some of that popcorn?


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#67
glitchiegoomie,

I'm sorry, but what you thought was my grotto was actually my Armos; it appears that you must've taken a wrong warp and was confused by the red potion flowing from it. Your theory is about as likely as rescuing Zelda without Light Arrows.

Kaztalek, Pegasus Reservoir Seeker

Last edited 18 Sep 2010, 01:56 by Kaztalek.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#68
Kaztalek,

Your sense of humor violates my sense of sensibility.

Are you sure that you are at the right forum?

Pardon my French, but are you a Chicken Hawk?

I get a very bad vibe from you.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#69
To All Good ZSR Members,

It seems wise to devote this thread exclusively to the discussion of glitches/tricks/sequence breaks/knowledge/jokes/etc. related directly to the Bottom of the Well.

For example, I recently intitiated the following exchange of information in the "OoT / MQ - Question & Answer / Trick Help Thread" in the "Ocarina of Time" Forum. Eventually this exchange will be buried deep behind pages of dialogue. If this thread becomes the water cooler of conversation about the Bottom of the Well, fellow ZSR Members will be able to more quickly and accurately find information about the Bottom of the Well.


from "OoT / MQ - Question & Answer / Trick Help Thread":


Quote from: glitchiegoomie

When performing the Actor Overwrite Glitch in the Bottom of the Well to get the Bombchus early, how do you initiate the Walking While Talking trick?

Is there some way to get Navi to fly to the message on the wall in the main room, or do I just sit there like a chump until she wants to talk to me?

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter




Quote from: mzxrules , Moderator

ZSR writes:
"There is a crawlspace here, crawl through it, and perform the Walking While Talking trick, only instead of talking, open the locked door."

On that note, there isn't another way to activate Walking While Talking that we know of. Navi won't talk to you while your in a dungeon, and I believe the message on the wall/green bubble is too far away from the tunnel to Z-Target and read



Quote from: ZFG, Moderator

That part is worded badly.  What it means is you need to quickly run over to the door and open it before the camera goes back to link instead of looking at the crawlspace.

You actually can do WWT with the sign on the wall, but it doesn't unload part of the room, its opening the door that does that.




Quote from: glitchiegoomie

mzxrules and ZFG,

Thank you both for your sage advice.

glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter 




glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#71

botw doesn't deserve it's own topic


bluemarth,

When I was a wee little lad back in elementary school, one of my teachers told us about his PhD thesis in philosophy.

The thesis question was:

"Why?"

His answer was:

"Why not?"

Needless to say he scored an A and got the degree.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Last edited 19 Sep 2010, 03:19 by glitchiegoomie.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#72
glitchiegoomie,

I assure you I'm on the right website.

I have a confession to make; I joined here because I am drawn to you with a burning passion. You are utter perfection.

I wrote a poem as a futile attempt to put my thoughts into words:

Shall I compare thee to the dawn of a new day?
Thou art more lovely and more textured:
Rough winds do shake the darling slopes of Snowhead,
And Din's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of the Light Temple shines,
And oft' is her gold dust dimm'd;
And every fairy fountain from fairy fountain sometime declines,
By chance or RingRush's changing routes untrimm'd:
But thy extended superslide shall not fade
Nor lose possession of the fishing rod fair thou owest;
Nor shall Ganon brag thou wanderest in his Shadow Temple,
When in wall clipping to the pedestal of time thou growest:

So long as Zoras can breathe underwater, or the eye of truth can see,
So long lives this, and this gives a fairy to thee.

glitchiegoomie, I love you.

Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher

Re: Bottom of the Well

#73

glitchiegoomie,Shall I compare thee to the dawn of a new day?
Thou art more lovely and more textured:
Rough winds do shake the darling slopes of Snowhead,
And Din's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of the Light Temple shines,
And oft' is her gold dust dimm'd;
And every fairy fountain from fairy fountain sometime declines,
By chance or RingRush's changing routes untrimm'd:
But thy extended superslide shall not fade
Nor lose possession of the fishing rod fair thou owest;
Nor shall Ganon brag thou wanderest in his Shadow Temple,
When in wall clipping to the pedestal of time thou growest:

So long as Zoras can breathe underwater, or the eye of truth can see,
So long lives this, and this gives a fairy to thee.

glitchiegoomie, I love you.
That was... beautiful.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#74

glitchiegoomie,

I assure you I'm on the right website.

I have a confession to make; I joined here because I am drawn to you with a burning passion. You are utter perfection.

I wrote a poem as a futile attempt to put my thoughts into words:

Shall I compare thee to the dawn of a new day?
Thou art more lovely and more textured:
Rough winds do shake the darling slopes of Snowhead,
And Din's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of the Light Temple shines,
And oft' is her gold dust dimm'd;
And every fairy fountain from fairy fountain sometime declines,
By chance or RingRush's changing routes untrimm'd:
But thy extended superslide shall not fade
Nor lose possession of the fishing rod fair thou owest;
Nor shall Ganon brag thou wanderest in his Shadow Temple,
When in wall clipping to the pedestal of time thou growest:

So long as Zoras can breathe underwater, or the eye of truth can see,
So long lives this, and this gives a fairy to thee.

glitchiegoomie, I love you.

Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher



Kaztalek,

Keats would blush. Yeats would faint. Wilde would probably shoot a load.

Regardless of your sexual agenda, you have a way with the English language that would make the Bard himself dunk his head in the river.

You are forgiven.

Look, but don't touch.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#75
If magic is all we've ever know
Then it's easy to miss what really goes on
But I've seen miracles in every way
And I see miracles everyday
Oceans spanning beyond my sight
And a million stars way above em at night
We don't have to be high to look in the sky
And know that's a miracle opened wide
Look at the mountains, trees, the seven seas
And everything chilling underwater, please
Hot lava, snow, rain and fog
Long neck giraffes, and pet cats and dogs
And I've seen eighty-five thousand people
All in one room, together as equals
Pure magic is the birth of my kids
I've seen shit that'll shock your eyelids
The sun and the moon, and even Mars
The Milky Way and fucking shooting stars
UFOs, a river flows
Plant a little seed and nature grows
Niagara falls and the pyramids
Everything you believed in as kids
Fucking rainbows after it rains
there's enough miracles here to blow your brains
I fed a fish to a pelican at Frisco bay
It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran away
And music is magic, pure and clean
You can feel it and hear it but it can't be seen

Music is all magic
(Are you a believer in miracles)
You can't even hold it
(Do you notice and recognize miracles)
it's just there in the air
(Are you a believer in miracles)
Pure motherfucking magic Right?
This shit'll blow your fucking mind
(Do you notice and recognize miracles)

Music is a lot like love, it's all a feeling
And it fills the room, from the floor to the ceiling
I see miracles all around me
Stop and look around, it's all astounding
Water, fire, air and dirt
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
Solar eclipse, and vicious weather
Fifteen thousand Juggalos together
And I love my mom for giving me this
Time on this planet, taking nothing for granted
I seen a caterpillar turn into a butterfly
Miracles ain't nothing to lie
Shaggy's little boys look just like Shaggy
And my little boy looks just like daddy
Miracles each and every where you look
And nobody has to stay where they put
This world is yours for you to explore
there's nothing but miracles beyond your door
The Dark Carnival is your invitation
To witness that without explanation
Take a look at this fine creation
And enjoy it better with appreciation
Crows, ghosts, the midnight coast
The wonders of the world, mysteries the most
Just open your mind, and it ain't no way
To ignore the miracles of every day

(Are you a believer in miracles)
Magic everywhere in this bitch
(Do you notice and recognize miracles)
it's all around you, you don't even know it
(Are you a believer in miracles) Shit's crazy
(Do you notice and recognize miracles,
So many miracles, the magic miracles)

Are you a believer in miracles
Do you have time for the miracles
Do you notice and recognize miracles
So many miracles, the magic miracles
Are you a believer in miracles
Do you have time for the miracles
Do you notice and recognize miracles
So many miracles, the magic miracles
Are you a believer in miracles
Do you have time for the miracles
Do you notice and recognize miracles
So many miracles, the magic miracles
Are you a believer in miracles
Do you have time for the miracles
Do you notice and recognize miracles
So many miracles, the magic miracles

Re: Bottom of the Well

#76
glitchiegoomie,

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the triforce is not real.

Runnerguy2489, The Runner Guy

Last edited 21 Sep 2010, 01:57 by Runnerguy2489.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#80

glitchiegoomie,

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but the triforce is not real.

Runnerguy2489, The Runner Guy

Runnerguy2489, let me add on to that.

Existence is a relatively simple concept -- it is defined as that which consists of either matter or energy. Therefore if the Triforce exists, it must be composed of either matter or energy.
The opposite must also be true. If the Triforce is not composed of matter or energy, then it, by definition, does not exist. Thus to argue that the Triforce does exist, despite a total absence of matter or energy, is to argue, existence equals non-existence, which is a complete contradiction.
If the Triforce exists, then physical evidence is really the only methodology by which we can ascertain that it exists. Of course, this does not require direct physical evidence -- we cannot perceive ISG directly, but we know that it exists due to the effects of its chopping on surrounding matter, as well as the flashes of white lines that are released as captured matter crosses the sword. But since "existence" is defined as that which is composed of matter or energy, the proof of existence must be some evidence of that matter or energy.
Evidence is defined as that which impacts our physical senses in some manner, either directly, or through some translating device such as a pictograph box or an observatory telescope. Since our sensory organs are designed to perceive the effects of matter and energy, it is through the evidence of the senses that we can determine the existence or nonexistence of things.
If I argue that something exists, but then claim there is no way to detect it, my argument contradicts itself. Let's say I tell a deaf man that I hear a deep, loud sound coming from a speaker. If he lays his hand on it and feels no vibrations, he has every right to be skeptical. If I say that this loud sound does not have vibrations, he may then pull out his trusty microphone or other sound wave detector. If this instrument detects no sound in the vicinity, can I still tell him that this loud sound is occurring? At some point, if my definition of "loud sound" basically boils down to "that which is the opposite of any evidence that a loud sound is occurring," then clearly my approach to truth needs a little work.
This approach helps clarify the truth value of the proposition that the Triforce does not exist. If it exists, then sensual evidence of some sort is required to determine the existence of it. If the Triforce is not made up of matter or energy, then it does not exist, since that which is not composed of matter or energy -- does not exist. If the Triforce is made up of matter and energy, then it is subject to physical laws. Since it is bound by physical laws, miracles are impossible, because miracles are, by definition, violations of physical laws. Likewise, the Triforce cannot be all knowing and all-powerful, since both attributes would violate the basic tenets of physical laws. All knowing would require instantaneous knowledge of all matter, past, present and future, which is clearly impossible, while all powerful would require the ability to break the bounds of physical laws, which brings us back to the realm of nonexistence.
If the Triforce is subject to physical laws, then praying to the Triforce makes about as much sense as worshipping a cucco, begging the Random Number Generator to grant you bomb drops, or circumcising your son to appease Dampe. If the Triforce is not subject to physical laws, then the concept of it is synonymous with the concept of non-existence.
Why is there such resistance to the fact that the Triforce does not exist? Many people redefine "Triforce" within their own minds as "a potential form of matter or energy that has not been discovered yet," or "that which could exist in an alternate universe," or something to that effect.
However, either a criterion for determining truth exists, or it does not. If such a criterion exists, then it must be objective, and based on the evidence of the senses and reason, which precludes the existence of any sacred triangles. If no such criterion exists, then both everything and nothing is true, and lizalfocism, leeverism, superslidestition, and the belief of the arwing without gameshark are all equally valid.
If an objective criterion for truth exists, then it cannot logically be applied according to whim, or only in situations that feel emotionally comfortable. Through this logical method we can determine no Triforce exists.
Actions are more important than beliefs.

Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher

Last edited 21 Sep 2010, 02:21 by Kaztalek.

Re: Bottom of the Well

#81
Kaztalek,

If I didn't trust you implicitly (which I do), then I might suspect that you were filibustering.

However, I can see through your subterfuge and realize that you are indeed a "man" of intellect attempting to appease the masses by appearing slightly antagonistic to me while simultaneously mollycoddling me with verse (both very readable, by the way).

The problem with sitting on the fence is that eventually you get tired and fall one way or the other - and the side you fall on will NEVER believe you that fell on their side on purpose.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#83
glitchiegoomie,

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the King's horses, And all the King's men
Didn't give a shit because Kaztalek hovered over it with a Triforce Megaflip.

Kaztalek, Unicorn Fountain Searcher

Re: Bottom of the Well

#84
Kaztalek,

How did you find out about the Triforce Megaflip?

Only two other Triforce Hunters know about it, and both were sworn to secrecy.


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter

Re: Bottom of the Well

#86
ING-X,

Have you ever attempted the Triforce Megaflip with only the Deku Shield and a Deku Stick on a C-Button, without first acquiring the Kokiri Sword?


glitchiegoomie, Triforce Hunter