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Majora's Mask

MM: Question & Answer Thread

Started by Unreal · 31 Aug 2009 · 353 replies

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#61
I used the stop time glitch with a bottle near a scarecrow and it started the prompt for teaching it a song. You can move around until you get to the song teaching part. You can also get the stop icon on b (works like a usual sword) and stays there until you talk to someone except the scarecrow, pause, or use the ocarina. Could there be any use for this?

And also, could someone explain to me how bottle adventure works in majora's mask?

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#62
bs wrote

I used the stop time glitch with a bottle near a scarecrow and it started the prompt for teaching it a song. You can move around until you get to the song teaching part. You can also get the stop icon on b (works like a usual sword) and stays there until you talk to someone except the scarecrow, pause, or use the ocarina. Could there be any use for this?

And also, could someone explain to me how bottle adventure works in majora's mask?


http://zeldaspeedruns.com/site/index.php?link=mm/tech/bottleadventure
Catch hot spring water in a bottle.


I never heard about your stop on B thing. Can you upload a video?

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#63
What's the trick to gainers? I can get the backflip without L-targeting, but when I retarget the wall Link doesn't grab the top of it. Is there some secret to reduce backward movement?

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#64
Razor7581 wrote

What's the trick to gainers? I can get the backflip without L-targeting, but when I retarget the wall Link doesn't grab the top of it. Is there some secret to reduce backward movement?

Nope, the L press should do it. I always hold forward after the backflip, but I don't think that's needed, it's just force of habit.
Maybe you're not quick enough with the L press?

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#65
You have to retarget the wall one frame after the untargeted backflip. You're probably just not fast enough.

You can pause buffer gainers if you're having trouble getting one. They seem to be fickle for me; sometimes I can get them like 80% and then sometimes I'll try for 20 times or so without getting one. Basically, get against the wall while targeting it. Then buffer a backflip the next frame (let go of your target button). The frame after that, buffer your target button and push the control stick towards the wall.

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#66
Can someone tell me how to do a simple recoil flip?
I can't seem to get it right, even though I can get a lot of other(Probably more difficult) tricks.
A little help would be much appreciated

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#67
Roehoer wrote

Can someone tell me how to do a simple recoil flip?
I can't seem to get it right, even though I can get a lot of other(Probably more difficult) tricks.
A little help would be much appreciated

For a chu just do a backflip then chu & then shield like you'd do in a hover but without infinite sword. The important thing is not to hold back on the control stick after the backflip. It's basically the same for bombs too.

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#68
For recoil flip, the stick direction are inverted. Hold forward to go backward, if you press left, Link will go to the right and vice-versa. A good place for practise is the updraft room of invertd stone tower temple.

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#69
hey guys? i have a quesiton...when i bombchu hover off the ground (yes i have ISG activated) i stand in air for a second...i kno why...because i didint first go to a cliff making the ISG think im on cliff so keeping me in air for long time...but i tried back bombchu hovering again but i fell...am i doing sumthing wrong? im trying to get epona....

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#70
rudemario wrote

hey guys? i have a quesiton...when i bombchu hover off the ground (yes i have ISG activated) i stand in air for a second...i kno why...because i didint first go to a cliff making the ISG think im on cliff so keeping me in air for long time...but i tried back bombchu hovering again but i fell...am i doing sumthing wrong? im trying to get epona....

You have to use each bombchu in quick succession to the previous in order to get off the ground. You're probably having trouble because you aren't using the second bombchu quick enough after using the first one, since using only one to get off the ground only allows you to momentarily float in the air (which is the time to use the second bombchu). It will probably take some practice. If nothing else you could also try staircase hover to get off the ground.

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#71
Razor7581 wrote

You have to use each bombchu in quick succession to the previous in order to get off the ground. You're probably having trouble because you aren't using the second bombchu quick enough after using the first one, since using only one to get off the ground only allows you to momentarily float in the air (which is the time to use the second bombchu). It will probably take some practice. If nothing else you could also try staircase hover to get off the ground.

Ahh....but the thing is...im doing this on a emulater....a mac emulater...so i have to constantly buy bombchus because i dont have gameshark (shity ass sixtyforce.....why didint u put gameshark on it???) and i dont have a bigger bomb bag....or a giants wallet so i have to do this with no other way to turn...i got the zora mask early, because there was a little wall....argh....it would be easier if the timer to falling would stop when u back flipped....but it does'nt uv got less than a second to jump pull out a chu and R....damn

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#72
rudemario wrote

Ahh....but the thing is...im doing this on a emulater....a mac emulater...so i have to constantly buy bombchus because i dont have gameshark (shity ass sixtyforce.....why didint u put gameshark on it???) and i dont have a bigger bomb bag....or a giants wallet so i have to do this with no other way to turn...i got the zora mask early, because there was a little wall....argh....it would be easier if the timer to falling would stop when u back flipped....but it does'nt uv got less than a second to jump pull out a chu and R....damn

Oh And Theres No Staircase on Milk Road....:P

EDIT: I just found an' intresting Easy money route...i think it would help some non-TAS speedruns if they didint have enough money for chu's on the way over to the bomb shop....if u happen to get to clock town around 10 or so...you can go to the curiosity shop...if u have a bottle on u you could go to the trading post and get the fish thats on the left side of the bridge.....im doin it! lawl....i hope it helps!

Edit: I dont get the gainer....
1. Do u put ur back to the wall?
2. do u let go of z and like a milisecond later press and hold again?
3. BUT WHEN I LET GO OF Z, ITS STILL Z TARGETING!!! WTF?

Last edited 10 Jan 2011, 18:28 by rudemario.

Re: Majora's Mask - Question & Answer Thread

#73
rudemario wrote

Oh And Theres No Staircase on Milk Road....:P

EDIT: I just found an' intresting Easy money route...i think it would help some non-TAS speedruns if they didint have enough money for chu's on the way over to the bomb shop....if u happen to get to clock town around 10 or so...you can go to the curiosity shop...if u have a bottle on u you could go to the trading post and get the fish thats on the left side of the bridge.....im doin it! lawl....i hope it helps!

Edit: I dont get the gainer....
1. Do u put ur back to the wall?
2. do u let go of z and like a milisecond later press and hold again?
3. BUT WHEN I LET GO OF Z, ITS STILL Z TARGETING!!! WTF?

By Staircase Hover he means you put two bombs on the ground, and hover off the explosions. This makes it so that you don't fall to the ground straight away, since you use two hovers.
Also, that thing about money. In both TAS and non-TAS speedruns, you get enough money from bottle dupe anyway.
Also, just get the Adult's Wallet. Then buy a bomb bag and 20 bombchu. You only need two bomb/chus to have a hover where you wont fall straight to the ground.

For Gainers
You want to face towards a wall that is too high for you to grab normally, but it grabbable if you Ground Jump/Gainer. Hold Z, then backflip and let go of z at the same time. Repress z very quickly.
This is by no means an easy trick, you only have 1 visual frame to repress the z button.

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#74
OMG DUDE! wtf? i keep trying but when i backflip, i cant at all turn of z targeting while im backfliping....i let go...

EDIT!!!: ignore what  said....i got it....but zora link moves to far back when he back flips...i cnt get him to move closer so he can climb...

Last edited 10 Jan 2011, 20:06 by rudemario.

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#75
BottlesFTW wrote

By Staircase Hover he means you put two bombs on the ground, and hover off the explosions. This makes it so that you don't fall to the ground straight away, since you use two hovers.
Also, that thing about money. In both TAS and non-TAS speedruns, you get enough money from bottle dupe anyway.
Also, just get the Adult's Wallet. Then buy a bomb bag and 20 bombchu. You only need two bomb/chus to have a hover where you wont fall straight to the ground.

For Gainers
You want to face towards a wall that is too high for you to grab normally, but it grabbable if you Ground Jump/Gainer. Hold Z, then backflip and let go of z at the same time. Repress z very quickly.
This is by no means an easy trick, you only have 1 visual frame to repress the z button.


Bub.... i tried that staircase glitch...it just drains my all ready low rupee count...:P

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#78
Oh and....if i new how to do it....i probobly could.....

EDIT: I CAN NOW GAINER!!!! BTW IT DOESNINT INVOLVE L PRESSES.....WTF? L IS FOR MOON JUMPING! (lawl....gameshark...sucks :P)

Last edited 12 Jan 2011, 02:01 by rudemario.

Bottle Dupe Info URGENT!

#79
Hello...i bottle dup'ed over my pictograph, and i was wondering, How do u get it back? im assuming you go back and talk to the guy at the swamp but i dont think the game checks for ur pictograph like it does with the ocarina....plz get back to me as soon as possible! i will be checking this every half hour so be dont hesitate to reply! Thanks!

Last edited 13 Jan 2011, 03:40 by mzxrules.

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#80
Next time post in the question and answer thread. <_<
And no, you can't get it back unless you haven't played song of time.

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#81
Oh....ok i will next time....so i just play the song of time and go back to the swamp like at the beginning? mmm....thats what i thought. T_T

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#82
rudemario wrote

Oh and....if i new how to do it....i probobly could.....

EDIT: I CAN NOW GAINER!!!! BTW IT DOESNINT INVOLVE L PRESSES.....WTF? L IS FOR MOON JUMPING! (lawl....gameshark...sucks :P)


L is for L-Targeting on the Gamecube/VC ports.

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#84
i Have a question. couldn't you just gainer up to clock tower when doing the moons tear skip? its faster by afew seconds...i think it would help....i tried it myself and found that when i did the backflip in one try and the gainer in one try, that the gainer beats the backflip by 2-3-4 seconds depending on the person

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#85
rudemario wrote

i Have a question. couldn't you just gainer up to clock tower when doing the moons tear skip? its faster by afew seconds...i think it would help....i tried it myself and found that when i did the backflip in one try and the gainer in one try, that the gainer beats the backflip by 2-3-4 seconds depending on the person
Ya, most people do gainers now, but since you still have to wait for midnight it doesn't make much of a difference.

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#86
ZFG wrote

Ya, most people do gainers now, but since you still have to wait for midnight it doesn't make much of a difference.

no say you wanted to get in as soon as possible and it hit 12 a lil faster than you expected...and u needed to get up quicker...

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#87
rudemario wrote

no say you wanted to get in as soon as possible and it hit 12 a lil faster than you expected...and u needed to get up quicker...


That shouldn't happen in a run. If you aren't up there before 12 pm, then you lost time somewhere else and need more practice.

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#88
ZFG wrote

Ya, most people do gainers now, but since you still have to wait for midnight it doesn't make any difference.

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#89
I have another question....can u get the mirror shield early? i cant get the gibdo mask so i cant do the well...i gainer'd the ikana castle entrance by the gate....and i thought just like if the game teles u on the other side of objects (like sakons hideout) it would prob do this too....so i went in the well and i saw the sun block....theres where i got pissed....i kno u can do the gibdo mask early glitch....but....if u can avoid that...plz explain. i will also be on the irc relay chat....Thanks! :D
EDIT: case closed....i have learned how to clip through the sun block thanks to elm :D

Last edited 15 Jan 2011, 02:41 by rudemario.

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#90
rudemario wrote

I have another question....can u get the mirror shield early? i cant get the gibdo mask so i cant do the well...i gainer'd the ikana castle entrance by the gate....and i thought just like if the game teles u on the other side of objects (like sakons hideout) it would prob do this too....so i went in the well and i saw the sun block....theres where i got pissed....i kno u cant do the gibdo mask early glitch....but....if u can avoid that...plz explain. i will also be on the irc relay chat....Thanks! :D


The mirror shield is skipped in the Any%... so I guess you could just get the Light Arrows and use those to get the Mirror Shield without having to go through the well.
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