100% TP Run GCN

The changes...
Currently there are 77 segments (2 more segments than previous route). Also, in the older route, after opening the water bomb chest in first room of Lakebed, you'd have 13 water bombs. You have 10 in the new route. You don't buy water bombs from Barnes.

-Segment 15 You now get the bug by the wooden bridge and purple rupee in Ordon
-Segment 16 goat herd, heart piece, save
-Segment 17 BiTE, rescue Colin, save
-Segment 18 Go to Death Mountain, save
-Segment 16 Empty bomb bag while escorting Telma and get 9 rupees
-Segment 27 Get bug in kakariko graveyard, lja onto ledge, swim OoB behind rock to lake hylia, clip through wall, enter lakebed, save
-Segment 51 skip golden cucco by using lja bomb boost onto ledge and lja to sacred grove entrance

okay i finished with the route

segment 31: the dayfly male and the poes there can´t be obtain because it is daytime maybe these things should be add to segment 32 where you exit gerudo desert and kill the poe right then it is night

segment 33: when you start it is night and it could be in my eyes very close to get the all the poes before daytime maybe add to segment 72, i am not 100% sure but if you warp to gerudo mesa to do cave of ordeals it should be night

segement 36: the same problem with the poes by climbing snow peak it must be night to kill them and after the howling stone and open the portal and warp to kakariko it was by me daytime and i couldn´t kill the poes in graveyard but i could be to slow there maybe it works

segment 42,43,44: after i finshed the races against yeta and yeto it was night and i couldn´t donate 500 rupees to malo mart

Ecko wrote

okay i finished with the route...

Dude I am gonna tell you one thing: YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS GAME, I wrote the route myself, tested it myself, everything is PERFECT, might not work for you, tha only says you need more practice.
One more thing: bugs are there anytime, you might check your tv brightness

I started a 100% run in case anybody is interested in seeing it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ExoSDA

P.S.: I als found some inconcistencies with the night/daytime cycle in your route chimpas (wasn't going as fast as possible but also not losing more than a few seconds here and there)
Guess we'll see how it works out once I get there in my segmented attempts.

Chimpas wrote

Dude I am gonna tell you one thing: YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS GAME, I wrote the route myself, tested it myself, everything is PERFECT, might not work for you, tha only says you need more practice.
One more thing: bugs are there anytime, you might check your tv brightness

yes exo is right with the day and night cycles and you are wrong the dayfly male in the desert is only at night there test it

the dayfly female is there at anytime

Guys, I was checking the route and I saw a modification Logitech did for clipping inside Lakebed Temple then get water bombs, but as you get only ten bombs, and after exiting you have five, and to do the cave at Lake Hylia you need at least 6 boms, I recommend to get the second chest at the second room where the stalactites are

Chimpas wrote

Guys, I was checking the route and I saw a modification Logitech did for clipping inside Lakebed Temple then get water bombs, but as you get only ten bombs, and after exiting you have five, and to do the cave at Lake Hylia you need at least 6 boms, I recommend to get the second chest at the second room where the stalactites are

It's faster to just get the extra 5 in the room with the heart piece right before the cave (Lanayru Spring).

An estimate of how long until the completion of a 100& run? A year or less?

ArthurDent wrote

An estimate of how long until the completion of a 100& run? A year or less?

I've already finished a couple. My best time is here http://zeldaspeedruns.com/leaderboards/tp/100

Do you need to collect all dungeon maps and compasses on the 100% rules?

Nope.

EDIT: Here's the ZSR/SDA rules -


   Reach "The End" screen
   You must collect:
       All Hearts (pieces and containers)
       All Mirror Shards
       All Fused Shadows
       All 60 Poes
       All Golden Bugs
       All Equipment
       All Hidden Skills
       All Items. This means:
           4 Bottles
           3 Bomb Bags
           Ancient Sky Book **
           Horse call
           Lantern
           Fishing Rod & upgrade
           Slingshot
           Hawkeye
           All dungeon items
       Medicine Scent
       Fishing Journal
       Largest Bomb Bag
       Giant Quiver
       Giant's Wallet
   Important Notes:
       You only need to collect the fishing journal, you do not have to complete it
       Only the final scent is required
       Getting all the letters is not required
       Completing the Cave of Ordeals is not required
       Getting each of every bomb type is not required
       The Wooden Sword and default Ordon Shield are not required, but at least one wooden shield is required upon game completion, meaning you must get another one if it burns
    Timing stops when you deliver the final blow to Ganondorf

** This is actually not technically required, because you get rid of it in the natural game route. However, once it is used to fix the Dominion Rod, it is slower to complete that quest and give it away to Shad because City in the Sky Early exists and nothing relevant comes of completing that quest.

Pheenoh wrote

Nope.

EDIT: Here's the ZSR/SDA rules -


   Reach "The End" screen
   You must collect:
       All Hearts (pieces and containers)
       All Mirror Shards
       All Fused Shadows
       All 60 Poes
       All Golden Bugs
       All Equipment
       All Hidden Skills
       All Items. This means:
           4 Bottles
           3 Bomb Bags
           Ancient Sky Book
           Horse call
           Lantern
           Fishing Rod & upgrade
           Slingshot
           Hawkeye
           All dungeon items
       Medicine Scent
       Fishing Journal
       Largest Bomb Bag
       Giant Quiver
       Giant's Wallet
   Important Notes:
       You only need to collect the fishing journal, you do not have to complete it
       Only the final scent is required
       Getting all the letters is not required
       Completing the Cave of Ordeals is not required
       Getting each of every bomb type is not required
       The Wooden Sword and default Ordon Shield are not required, but at least one wooden shield is required upon game completion, meaning you must get another one if it burns
    Timing stops when you deliver the final blow to Ganondorf

Wrong, Ancient Sky Book does not give you anything, but it just keeps in the inventory because you never deliver it, Ordeon shield is actually required because it has a space as an Item, just the wooden sword is not rquired because it gets automatically replaced with the ordon sword

Nothing about that is wrong. Ancient Skybook is required for the Dominion Rod upgrade to get a heart piece and to do the Cave of Ordeals, it just so happens it is kept because there is no point in finishing that quest. Regarding the Ordon Shield, the space in the equipment inventory has to be filled by a shield at some point before the game is completed. So buying a wooden shield is fine.

EDIT: I made an addendum to that part because it is worded poorly.

Yays finally a run in this category! Please don't pull a Paraxade and stop at fire temple...

Chimpas wrote

Surprise mothafuckas

You walked a little bit before the first roll -- link covers distance more slowly than immediately rolling from idle so you should try to avoid doing that as much as possible. Goats could have been a bit better. This was around 2 seconds slower than Parax's segment found here. :/

Pheenoh wrote

You walked a little bit before the first roll -- link covers distance more slowly than immediately rolling from idle so you should try to avoid doing that as much as possible. Goats could have been a bit better. This was around 2 seconds slower than Parax's segment found here. :/

Dude, that´s two seconds, for an eight hours run...

Segmented though.

Chimpas wrote

If you really want to have a good time, restart your run, a tip I can give you is: LIMIT YOUR LOST SECONDS OVER THE PLAYED MINUTES.
 I allow myself to lost 1 second per minute played, if the segment is 3-4 minutes long, if the segment is 5 minutes or longer te 5 seconds lost per minute is ok, like in my run at segment 1, 1:00 minute long and 1 second lost (can you find it??), segment 30 (31??) well Arbiter's Ground's, thugh I haven´t uploaded it, it was 14:07 minutes long, with around 15 seconds lost. What I want to say is, do the route 3 or 4 times, speedrun it and get a nice time, then, only then, you will have a great time cuz you will learn each part. I have to admit I have only done the BiT run only once (yay!) but actually I had beat the EMS route several times with recordable times, the route is practically the same.
I just don´t want you to quit your run when you'r facing the rupee dive, or morpheel withour zora armor, and please do houndreds of little timesavers, many people just say: "nah! it saves only 5 seconds" or so, well, a good amount of 5 seconds timesavers add valious minutes to the saved time. Do your best.

I wonder where the Chimpas from 2010 went...

Pedalpowertoast wrote

I wonder where the Chimpas from 2010 went...

you are right bro, but there's only a little detail, I'm doing it just for fun, nothing serius, I'll try to finsh it but it may take me a long time to do so since I'm busy, back in 2010 my games were stolen and a couple months ago I bought TP again, I don't have those amazing skills anymore, so don't be surprised if I decide to keep even with more than one second per segment lost