Low% Discussion

Yomi wrote

I get all the eggs from pinnacle rock and skip pirate fortress

Can you explain in detail how you did this? You could catch eggs in both of your duped bottles, use song of time storage to duplicate the eggs, dump the eggs in the lab, then go get three more eggs (including your real bottle this time) but that is still only 5 eggs. So unless you found a way to keep the eggs in the lab after doing song of time storage, I don't see how this is possible (without more than 2 duplicated bottles).

you have to catch 2 eggs in the duped bottles keeping 1 c button empty. go back in time put your real bottle on 1 of your 2 c buttons, then bottle dupe to empty c let the bird steal your bottle giving you another empty c to bottle dupe over. catch 2 more eggs giving you 4 then you can go back in time and drop off the 4 eggs and catch the last 3.

That sounds like it should work, how about climbing stone tower? What do you get isg off of?

Rocmox wrote

That sounds like it should work, how about climbing stone tower? What do you get isg off of?

fire keese

Can you make a video of you getting isg off of fire keese? I've tried it before and others have and I haven't seen it done.

Fire keese isg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMKkjeavwY&feature=youtu.be

cafde and i have been trying to solve this low% and i'm very curious as to your route through stone tower. theoretically it's possible but i want to know what you did, specifically for getting past the two sun blocks

Indextic wrote

cafde and i have been trying to solve this low% and i'm very curious as to your route through stone tower. theoretically it's possible but i want to know what you did, specifically for getting past the two sun blocks

I skip the first sun block with map room early and get the key in the map room then for the second sun block I get isg off the pot and hover once off a boe then blast mask hover. inverted tower i just blast mask recoil flip to the eyegore bridge and get isg off his laser and then bk skip

did you time this run or was it just a playthrough?

Indextic wrote

did you time this run or was it just a playthrough?

just a playthrough i'll do a real run soon

Ummmm... Vid soon please...??? Low% has always been my favorite to watch I love seeing how people find ways around "needed" items or routes

Instead of doing two hovers up to Ikana, It would be faster to fairy fountain wrong warp. We'd get to the fairy fountain using flying Zora off the turtle after GBT. GG timed it and it's 6 minutes faster.

To reset the turtle after GBT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7CETbPo2e0

Get ISG for the FFWW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay0HWyJHko8

Two hovers? Is the recoil flip not done by hovering off a bombchu to get on the outer edge? But I guess even if that was the case I'd still assume the FFWW to be faster than just the other hover alone, though.

So here's the current route

Majora's Mask Low% (19 items) (English only)


First Cycle
Mask Salesman cutscene skip
Don't bother with rupees

Keep atleast 1 c-button empty at all time
Soh
Play SoDT
NCT
Blast Mask
Tatl isg off great bay fence
Zora Mask
SoT

Termina field
Gossip stone time stop
Swamp
Witch Bottle
Deku Palace
Sonata
Woodfall
Deku Baba ISG w/ c-up
Bow Hover
Bow
Boss Key
Odolwa
Oath
SoT

ISoT
North exit
Get arrow drop from bushes
Shoot ice
Mountain Village
To snowhead with zora jumpslashes
Lullaby skip w/ blast mask
Once inside play SoDT
2 keys + Fire Arrows
BK Skip
Goht
Back to CT
Dupe over empty c-button, bow and deku mask
Tatl isg off fence
pinnacle rock eggs in duped bottles
SoT

SoDT
Get your real bottle stolen by takkuri
Dupe over the next empty c-button
Tatl isg off fence
Get 1 zora egg from pinnacle rock
SoT

ISoT
Tatl isg off fence
Deposit 4 eggs
Pick up the last 3 from pinnacle rock
NWBN
Turtle CS Skip
GBT BK Skip w/ blast mask
Gyorg
Zora shop SoT Storage

Flying Zora to FF
FFWW to Ikana
Stone Tower hover w/ blast mask
Map room early
Get Key
Water room
Get 2nd Key
Boe hover for 2nd sunblock
Recoil through updraft room
Light Arrows
Death Warp
Stack up on magic + Arrows
Invert STT
SoDT to night 3
STT BK Skip w/ blast mask
Twinmold
ISoT
Run back to CT
Giant's Cutscene
Majora

wow this is gonna be like a 4 hour run lmao

I have a 3:59:36

i rest my case.

Someone should get the world record in this god awful category so i have an excuse to run it again.

GoronGuy wrote

Someone should get the world record in this god awful category so i have an excuse to run it again.

are there any megaflips in it?

We skip bomb bag lol

Found a trick to get to snowhead after FFWW but I just realised it requires two fairies usable on death

- Just found out that it can be done with just one fairy, it's just really precise. I'll try to get a video up at some point, but it requires a lot of buffering, so I can't really do it on emulator.

It's a stupid and hard trick anyway, and the 30 minute hover is probably better

You should upload it anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiAgyxjBEIA

Unsure if it fits into the route, I hope it doesn't because it's dumb

Couldn't you just start the death + pause buffering right away instead of doing the SoDT stuff? That'd make it better I think, and wouldn't require its own cycle.

ING-X wrote

Couldn't you just start the death + pause buffering right away instead of doing the SoDT stuff? That'd make it better I think, and wouldn't require its own cycle.

You don't get far enough before the wind kicks in. You need to play the SoDTs so that you can get that little bit of extra distance

I'm gonna time all this stuff tomorrow.

If it turns out to be faster i'm gonna be so pissed lol

so, made a vid for clock tower early
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0VnmUFKWc

So here's the new killer route for 19-items (english)


Intro
Mask Salesman CS Skip
Grandma stories to Day 3
Scarecrow to Night 3
Get the stray fairy
Enter North Clock Town (Don't bother with the escape glitch)
Get magic
Gainer to Clock Tower
Get Song of Time
Play Song of Time and reset to skip cutscene


Song of Healing
Song of Double Time
Enter North Clock Town
Obtain Blast Mask
Exit Clock Town
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
Obtain Zora Mask
Song of Time


Inverted Song Of Time
Exit Clock Town
To Swamp (Skip the cutscene by doing the gossip stone timestop glitch)
Witch Bottle
To Deku Palace
Obtain Sonata of Awakening
Petrie Jump to skip dragonflies
Talk to Owl and fly across the gap (DO NOT Obtain Song of Soaring!)
Woodfall Temple
Fly across the first room
Damage ISG w/ C-up from Deku Baba
Hover across gap w/ Blast Mask
Obtain Bow
Get the Boss Key
To Odolwa
Kill Odolwa (DO NOT Pick up the Heart Container)
Oath of Order
Catch Fairy by the Woodfall Owl
Fairy Fountain Warp to Snowhead
Lullaby Skip
Enter Snowhead Temple
Obtain 2 small Keys
Kill Wizrobe for Fire Arrows
To the top
Recoil down to the side and get ISG from pots
Hover to Boss Door w/ Blast Mask
Snowhead BK Skip
Kill Goht (DO NOT pick up the Heart Container)
Run back to Clock Town
To Curiosity Shop
Dupe over Empty C-button, Bow and Deku Mask
Exit Clock Town
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
To Pinnacle Rock
Put all the Zora Eggs in duplicated Bottles
Song of Time


Song of Double Time
Get your Real Bottle stolen by Takkuri
To Curiosity Shop
Dupe over another empty C-Button
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
To Pinnacle Rock
Catch 1 egg in duplicated Bottle
Song of Time


Inverted Song of Time
Tatl ISG from Great Bay Fence
Hover over the fence w/ Blast Mask
Deposit 4 Eggs
To Pinnacle Rock
Get the remaining 3
New Wave Bossa Nova
To Zora Cape
Catch A Fairy
Turtle CS Skip
Great Bay Temple
Catch A Fairy
To Main Room
ISG from pots
Great Bay Temple BK Skip
Kill Gyorg (DO NOT pick up the Heart Container)
To Zora Shop
Song of Time Storage
Back to zora cape
Flying Zora to Fairy Fountain
Fairy Fountain Warp to Ikana
To Stone Tower
Get ISG from fire keese
Hover up Stone Tower w/ Blast Mask
Enter Stone Tower Temple
Map Room Early w/ Blast Mask
Kill Armos w/ Blast Mask
Obtain small Key
Up the Stairs
Open locked door and make it to the other side for another key
Swim through opening and open locked door
Sunblock Hover w/ Boes and Blast Mask
Updraft Room w/ Recoil Flips
Garo Master and Obtain Light Arrows
Death Warp to Entrance
Refill on magic and arrows
Invert Stone Tower Temple
Song of Time Storage
2nd updraft room
Get ISG from Hiploop
Stone Tower BK Skip
Kill Twinmold with Song of Time Storage


Clock Tower Hover w/ Blast Mask
Oath of Order for Giants
Majora
.Done

Sub 3:25 should be possible with this one

found a new, faster way for the lullaby skip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wyXfSGUhY

saves about 5 mins to hovering all the way up.

slower than GNSs method but well, not as hard