Ocarina of Time 3D

OoT3D: Trick Research and Discovery Thread

Started by thundrio · 15 Jun 2011 · 1,113 replies

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#31
Has anyone attempted Navi Aquascape yet?

Lets also hope the other versions of the game have more glitches, you never know.

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#32
I've tried it many times and link doesn't backstep that much than on n64 version of the game. So it might be possible but timing is hell. That is all what I know.

Normal forest escape I have almost got with crouch stab. I have half way inside of mido but link will be pushed back. Maybe right angle or something.

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#33
I've done the Forest Temple and Phantom Ganon 2nd phase takes 3 cycles to kill him, 2x Master Sword Jump Attacks per cycle. The loss on this version isn't as bad as King Dodongo because the Phantom becomes vulnerable to attacks much sooner.


You can beat him in 2 cycles. Keep close to him, hit fireball back at him at Jump Slash range, jump slash immediately to hit him as he falls, but before he touches ground. If you did that right, you bounce back a bit. Mash out two more Jump Attacks, and they will land (you'll be perfectly aligned so you won't slide left/right/behind him after jump attack animation). Just did this on boss rush mode.

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#35
Did you... just do a Gainer in that video?

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#37
lolol the trials aren't meant to be played outside MST by the game's law.

it looks like the devs only paid attention to the most popular glitches like ISG.

Last edited 17 Jun 2011, 20:59 by UchihaSasuke.

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#38
I really hope silver block skip is impossible, so that Golden Gauntlets early will be part of the any% route  ;D

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#39
well silver block skip + getting to spirit as child have to be impossible. if we could, then wouldnt we just go to child spirit and get silver gaunts+chus?

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#40
Spirit chus early and silver block skip are 2 very different things

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#41
About spirit as a child early. There is new problem if you can somehow get to the fortress as a child. Link can't backwalk over that sandpit anymore for some reason. He just sink to it.

Anyway I found new exclusive trick for this game a while ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-1aVqgmyfE

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#42
Iron Boots should be skippable in Water Temple now:

Spell dive to ruto, drain the water all the way down, get the key from bombable wall, go to the begining of the tunnel that leads to ruto, clip the hookshot into the wall near the entrance of the tunnel and then hook the torch that's close-by through the wall and fall into OOB water. Then swim around to the opposite side of the bottom floor and get that early key. Now with 2 keys you can go get the boss key (assuming you can cross the gap to that boulder tunnel in the room before the BK room). Then a hoverslide should make it to the ledge that leads to teh boss door room.

I do this exact route in my RDO playthrough here (the hookshot clip will be different of course): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-nuLFsj_tM

If that works then all we need is Water Early to skip iron boots completely. Anyone try the megaflip clip method or the old hookshot method (where you stand next to the WT entrance and hit the crystal with a very precise shot)?

EDIT: GD hoverboots... need them early. I'm getting ahead of myself. Trying to brain-storm at work xP. That WT torch clip should work at least.

Last edited 17 Jun 2011, 23:11 by aleckermit.

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#43
That sounds like a plan but that ledge what you are talking about is gone on water temple entrance. It's not there anymore :/

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#44
Can somebody test:

- Ruto Throw
- Silver block skip
- Shadow temple gate clip

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#45
News from french night:

Megaflip in Ice Cavern:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUgICQeC2c

Some water temple speed tricks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7eTrhkgvLg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaTxIQfDigI

Superswim  ;D :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-LyH89lhE

It gives hope for more Z-mashing tricks still there. Maybe Superswim could lead to Water temple early with some clip somewhere...

Last edited 18 Jun 2011, 05:49 by Majora MIM.

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#46
Great job with the videos majoramim!!! Awesome stuff and keep them coming!!! ^_^

Skip gerudo gate opening cutscenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HT8dOmToSg

Hoverslide over shadow pit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwY4UQWiGQ

-One cycle bongo bongo still works with spin cycles.
-Block skip is gone but hookshot clip is so close to grab ladders on other side.
-Old spike room jumpslash strategy to get top of the spikes works here as well.
-You can still chu down pillar just like old oot.

EDIT:
Swordless link confirmed in this game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tt8sTVcPc8

Last edited 18 Jun 2011, 13:13 by Kazooie.

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#48
This game is better than I expected, I thought it was going to be a Metroid Prime: Trilogy version but this one is not that bad really. I think I got an idea for a 3D forest escape which is damage sliding from a weak Deku Baba but trying to set one up without having to lock on during the slide is annoying.

This is BEFORE I saw MajoraMIM posting a video on Forest Escape.



I tried the classic Golden Token dupe and it seems like when the boomerang is returning, you are pretty much guaranteed to get legit even when you hit the portal but I have only done one attempt on this at the moment.

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#49
wow... Kazooie and MajoraMIM Have Found Quite Alot! This Game Is Already Part Broken :D

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#50

This game is better than I expected, I thought it was going to be a Metroid Prime: Trilogy version but this one is not that bad really. I think I got an idea for a 3D forest escape which is damage sliding from a weak Deku Baba but trying to set one up without having to lock on during the slide is annoying.

This is BEFORE I saw MajoraMIM posting a video on Forest Escape.



I tried the classic Golden Token dupe and it seems like when the boomerang is returning, you are pretty much guaranteed to get legit even when you hit the portal but I have only done one attempt on this at the moment.


Yeah, I also tried GS dupe and it's not working. Maybe the new ZFG method will work.
I also had the idea of damage out of forest, the deku baba on the left of the path to deku tree is good for it, stay between her and the wall and it will hit you when rotating.
The annoying thing isn't really getting out without targeting one but more avoid the water outside.

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#54
the sword is active when he falls into the hole. Problem is there is no known way to activate classiv isg.
Has anybody tried the damage activation way?

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#55
Bottom of the well, the now troll boulder is gone after playing the song of storms. I thought at first it was an explodable rock that you could use a Bombchu for early access but I was wrong.

In the room full of coffins, it's still possible to get the key without unlocking them by abusing the "Returning Boomerang = goes through anything" trick.

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#56
hmmm. is it potentially possible that the boulder disappears during the nocturne of shadow cutscene? (since bongo bongo breaks out). probably not but it seems possible.

also, for anybody not on the irc, grunz found a way to fortress as child (megaflip+damage boost). i had to leave before he tested anything there though.
i think kazooie is making a video later.

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#57
On MajoraMIM's attempt to get Lens of Truth without Lullaby. He faced  dead end after defeating Dead Hand as the next events did not function properly (bar doors were still locked and the Lens of Truth treasure never appears) but you can still do this by using Farore's Wind by placing and using a warp in the mini boss room, it does everything else correctly, the only problem is that you need Lullaby to get Farore's Wind destroying the whole purpose of getting the Lens without Lullaby.

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#58
What about killing dead hand, savewarping, and then going back to his room?

What i mean is, when you use farores to go back there, do you fight him again? or do you just use farores and the chest is there.

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#59
the clear trigger may be killing all the enemies in the loaded room

in this game it seems as though opening the original room was never reloaded, so it may be possible to get the lens of truth by killing all the keese and beamos in the room behind the locked door :)

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#60
Hey, I am new around here.
Figured that maybe it'd be worth sharing the stuff that I find.
Damage Boosting in water temple to get to the 3rd water level spot

A few different clips I've found. I think all of them works with hookshot.

Clip through the wall/floor in water temple at the 1st water level spot to reach the small key on the floor below. No need to waste a bombchu anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pka6L_YPOnk

Clip through the wall/floor in fire temple to reach a prison cell.
I assume you get stuck inside if the gates are closed, so you'll have to use Farore's wind or restart to get out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3FsNzaXx6M

Clip through the wall in water temple to get back into the main room while it is unloaded.
I was not aware that the hook spots were loaded at all time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGjY2VU2CsI

And then the old trick in Water temple to reach the 3rd water level spot fast. Just use damage boost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlHMHvUKknQ

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You can still hookshot and jumpslash in "?" (the windmill) to reach the heart container.
I do not think you can jump from the stone platforms and grab the center anymore though.

You can still use a damage source to get invincible and interact with objects that you normally wouldn't reach due to a damage source
Lets say that you use a bomb, and while it hit you, you just run into a circle of fire with a chest in it and open. I did this for the boss key chest in spirit temple.

You're still not able to pick up heart pieces that fall down into water (damn boomerang)

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-Block skip is gone but hookshot clip is so close to grab ladders on other side.

I tried to do that for atleast 30min, it is insanely close. If only there was a way to aim slightly higher and still clip. :/

Last edited 18 Jun 2011, 22:04 by CloudMax.