OoT / MQ - Question & Answer / Trick Help Thread

Pokey wrote

False. N64 players can play songs faster.

lol

False. PJ64 and Mupen players can play songs fastest.

hey guys im new to this stuff
so i am playing oot on an emulator but im having trouble super sliding. does it not work on emulator or does my timing just suck?

It works fine on emulator. Your positioning or timing is wrong.

BottlesFTW wrote

It works fine on emulator. Your positioning or timing is wrong.

Oh ok. Do you have any tips on executing it?

For the positioning, try shield dropping the bomb, roll forward without touching the control stick, then backflip, all while holding Z.  This should put you at the right position to superslide.  For the timing, unfortunately its not really possible to verbally explain how to time it so you just have to get a feel for the timing yourself.  All I can say about it is if you get hit by the bomb you're rolling too late and if you get a ground jump you're rolling too early.  Also, during the roll you should be mashing A to grab the bomb, not timing it (unless you're already doing this).

I feel kind of stupid for asking this, but how do you get the reverse angle where Link is facing the screen. (Such as when doing the tektite hover)

qwerty1605 wrote

I feel kind of stupid for asking this, but how do you get the reverse angle where Link is facing the screen. (Such as when doing the tektite hover)

Hit Z and release it, push back then press Z again. You need to be quick.

What would be the easiest way to get consistent Bomb/Chu Hovers? Ive done it only a few times

pivotguyDC1 wrote

What would be the easiest way to get consistent Bomb/Chu Hovers? Ive done it only a few times

For me slingshot/bow hover is the easier but sideroll hover goes way further.
You can also try bomb hover but it's a two times frame perfect trick.
If you have hover boots, just do it like in Majora's Mask, backflip->bombchu->shield or bomb->shield before explosion->backflip(with shield).

Just a little thing I noticed,

I was playing some oot bingo with Tali and did the king zora skip and then savewarped after finishing jabu,

I came back as an adult and king zora was still sitting there in the middle so i would have had to bomb hover over him...

I am fairly sure I saw someone do the same thing (sorta) and he had moved...

Besides clearing this up is there a better way to get round him other than bomb/chu hover as adult?

You can jumpslash clip into the left side of the pillar on the right.

How do you forwards backflip over a climbable object? I saw pokey do it on his stream and I tried to learn it on my own but im apparently missing something.

http://www.justin.tv/pokeyil/b/286041852 heres the video he did it in, at the very last seconds of the video, he goes to a climbable fence in kokiri village, and quickly backflips over the fence in forward motion.

To do a forward backflip you have to be up against a wall and holding Z, backflip and let go of Z as soon as you backflip, then press forward and Z again, all very fast.  Its nearly useless in OoT so don't bother too much with it, but if you play MM its much more useful because you're able to grab ledges out of a backflip.

ZFG wrote

To do a forward backflip you have to be up against a wall and holding Z, backflip and let go of Z as soon as you backflip, then press forward and Z again, all very fast.  Its nearly useless in OoT so don't bother too much with it, but if you play MM its much more useful because you're able to grab ledges out of a backflip.

Thanks dude, you're awesome  ;)!

Majora MIM wrote

For me slingshot/bow hover is the easier but sideroll hover goes way further.
You can also try bomb hover but it's a two times frame perfect trick.
If you have hover boots, just do it like in Majora's Mask, backflip->bombchu->shield or bomb->shield before explosion->backflip(with shield).

Thanks for that. I can get two bomb hovers in a row, but after that, i would have to slingshot/bow hover. Saves about 7 chus, and 10 seconds.

It seems unless I have rumble off, fishing is almost impossible... is this true?

Timic83 wrote

It seems unless I have rumble off, fishing is almost impossible... is this true?

Rumble doesn't affect the fish at all AFAIK.

Throw the lure near a fish, press A rapidly until it bites, hold down-left on the control stick + R + A until you get him.

I always held down-left too.
But does changing from down-left to down-right in the last reeling phase makes the fish catch easier?
I don't think so but I instinctively do it sometimes.

Found a more consistent way to hoverslide nd hit the loading zone for Deku Tree as adulr & just wanted to make sure it's new:
It's all the same until the hoverslide. When you get the superslide, equip hoverboots and hold right. As soon as you clip let go of R but keep holding L. As soon as you hear Link start to gasp, jumpslash and you should hit the loading zone every time.

Kind of a random question, but is there any way to permanently remove the master sword from your inventory so that you can't use it?  I was wanting to do a no sword run and it was going fine up until the part where I had to become an adult :\

I suppose I could just not press B, but it wouldn't really be the same.

bobemmo wrote

Kind of a random question, but is there any way to permanently remove the master sword from your inventory so that you can't use it?  I was wanting to do a no sword run and it was going fine up until the part where I had to become an adult :\

I suppose I could just not press B, but it wouldn't really be the same.

Well, yes and no.  You will always be able to get the master sword back after deleting it and saving twice or going back in time, and you'll also always need it for ganon.  However, if you're using version 1.0, you can do the steal the rod glitch to get a deku stick on B and the master sword will not reappear on B unless you manually equip it.

Actually, if you never got kokiri sword as child, you can probably do another not very well known method for deku stick B.  If you go to lon lon ranch and pay to ride a horse, after the time is up you should have a deku stick on B.  Though again, if you're not on version 1.0, the master sword will be automatically reequipped after saving and quitting twice. 

Yeah, I was asking because I remember hearing that it re-equips after a few save+loads.

Thanks though, I think I'll just be going with that horse riding method since it's nice and quick every time I need to redo it.  Unfortunately I don't have 1.0, so that's the best it's going to get.

I remember on the old ZSR Door of Time skip page that it talked about pause buffering. Can someone please tell me what frame you are supposed to jumpslash on?

There are 2 frames you can jumpslash on. Both look similar and in both, Link is out of bounds while the camera is not (it will look like he disappeared). Link gasps on the second frame, also the door is further to the right on the second frame. With practice, you'll learn to distinguish between them.

On the first frame, you want to jumpslash while holding left. On the second frame you want to jumpslash holding up instead. If the camera goes out of bounds with Link, you're too late and should probably JS and hold up to try and make it back in front of the door.

When I jumpslash on the first frame, I get spit back out on the entrance side and when I so it on the second frame I fall down. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong, are you supposed to let go of Z(L) or something?

Make sure you're holding left for the jumpslash.  Also, the old site can still be viewed here until we complete the new site.  Take a look at the 2nd video on that page, it should help.

Thanks guys, I just got it!

EDIT: I am playing through the any% route and I got the Hookshot and then I saved and quit to get out. Now for some reason I can not equip my Hookshot to get into the Fishing Pond. I can equip the Pocket Egg and the bottle, but not the Fairy Ocarina of the Hookshot? Can someone tell me what I have done wrong?

EDIT 2: Thanks ZFG!

Pause, have the cursor on the item screen, enter a new area, pause again and the cursor should start on hookshot.  Its a dumb inventory glitch that happens when you skip deku sticks.

Is there a way to get the arrows for the light arrows without having to go through the forest temple to obtain the fairy bow?