MM: Question & Answer Thread

yeah dutchnick, nice job


GG: yeah, just uploaded it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkwaPIGv-tU

you did mean that one right?


/e in a run i'd probably go for another backflip to the left to be safe, but it worked out here
turning like that seems a bit weird and messy but its not a big thing

low% jp doesnt seem to be a thing anyway, how do you plan to invert STT? as there arent any switches on the side of the temple when you exit it

I assume you would just blast mask recoil over to where inverting used to be done and shoot it out of a side hop.

I'm super new to Majora's Mask. What kind of any% route should I be using if I'm new to the game? Also, I've looked at MM's tech section and I'm trying to get the super slide timing down, any tips?

Smith wrote

I'm super new to Majora's Mask. What kind of any% route should I be using if I'm new to the game? Also, I've looked at MM's tech section and I'm trying to get the super slide timing down, any tips?

This is a good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4hOdvPyoPs

I will add the current japanese route to zsr at some point.

Regarding this route http://pastebin.com/VhwXPNc2

I want to move everything from stone tower to the end of cycle 3 to cycle 4 after I get the chateau romani. Would that be a good idea or should I use a different route entirely?

Edit: nvm, I found a way to push stone tower to 4th cycle and not lose much time to this route and it also makes things a hell of a lot easier.

I have a question regarding the Any% Route. Is it possible to hit sub 1:35 on the English version of Majora's Mask?

doubt it
JP is estimated to be around 2:30 faster than eng (I think?), and a pretty much perfect run with current strats on JP would be a 1:32 something

so theoretically maybe yes, but it's not gonna happen with current strats / route

What is the least number of explosives you can do the Woodfall BK Skip in?

I was watching GoronGuy's 1:41 run and noticed that when buying bombs, he bought 20 chus and 10 bombs with 99 rupees. The price of those would be 110 rupees. How is that possible? Do you have to buy the bombs quickly?

with 99 rupees you can buy 10b 20c, because if you mash A pretty quickly when buying bombchus, the rupee counter when buying your first pack of chus will be over 40 when buying the second pack of 10c.

The lowest amount for buying 20 bombchus is 67 rupees, I believe that's frame perfect though.

How about this question...

In the English Any% route, Is it quicker to Skip the Giants Cutscene in the Great Bay Temple or is it quicker to watch the cutscene ? If we skipped the cutscene we would have to buy more bombs and chus and soar back to the Zora Cape. I'm curious because in Goron Guy's run he did not skip the cutscene.

Skipping the GBT cutscene would be slower considering you usually needs explosives afterwards and it would take too long to store SoDT due to the fact that you'd have to clip twice.

In Japanese we do GBT first, meaning that's where we get Oath.

As for English, It would just be a lot slower than just watching it as the 2nd giants cutscene is not very long and we need explosives for lullaby skip which is done right after GBT.

Also for future things you should look to VPP or Ennopp as reference. My stuff is really outdated lol

I was referring to your run because I am speed running on the English version. I also reference Ennopp's run for strats I did not know about. By the way... where is the competition for English any% WR ? ;)

I have yet another question. When I am doing the ocarina dive from a hover, I just drop straight down and do not pull out the ocarina. What am I doing wrong? This is a bitch, especially when it ruins my run when I am trying to store SoT in Snowhead.

You have to mash the ocarina button while holding a direction, tapping it once doesnt work.

I did that but he still keeps falling straight down. I held a direction and continued to mash the ocarina button

Unreal704 wrote

I was referring to your run because I am speed running on the English version. I also reference Ennopp's run for strats I did not know about. By the way... where is the competition for English any% WR ? ;)

I have yet another question. When I am doing the ocarina dive from a hover, I just drop straight down and do not pull out the ocarina. What am I doing wrong? This is a bitch, especially when it ruins my run when I am trying to store SoT in Snowhead.

You are better off running a good category instead of trying to beat my english time

It makes more sense to run any% on japan anyway.

I am still having problems with ocarina dive . I am playing on japan and even by simply pressing the ocarina button while I am hovered over a void, Link falls straight down. Not sure what I am doing wrong. I have tried mashing as well.

EDIT: Finally got it. >_>

on english you need to hold the stick left or right and press c for ocarina on 2 consecutive frames

Hi everyone, i switched on VC but i've got a problem, when i tried the song storage it didnt work, i mean, i succeeded the hovering then i pressed C button (ocarina), but instead of using it, i'm was falling like a rock although i didnt have any problem yet when i was on pj 1.7.

I wonder if my setting (any region) are ok or not, i unabled japan games but i kept everything else in the original location and language.

The thing is i dont really know what version i have either, i was looking for this game in .wad but in all the jap roms i've found the problem remains.
If you have any idea where does it come from or if u give me a link (verified) to download majoras mask 1.0 (jap).wad, it would be great.

(by the way i own the game but in PAL)

thanks.

(update, i think i have 1.1 because goht dont throw link away like this: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6628/gohtdifferences.png

so i need a link to get the 1.0 jap, much appreciated)

Actually, I'm fairly sure you don't want the J 1.0 wad. It's generally worse than 1.1 - you have to manually push Mikau to the shore as there is no 'Grab' option, which is much more time consuming and tedious.
When you are pulling the ocarina in the hover, are you holding a direction on the joystick while you mash for the ocarina? Pulling the ocarina without doing this causes link to simply fall without any interesting effect.

i barely did it 2 times, how should i push the joystick? is there a specific timing to mash C ?

Just mash the fuck out of C and it will drop you

ok thanks

Im almost done learning any%, but there are still some things stopping me, twinmold and majora. I feel like whenever I go into twinmold I get hit and die, or I run out of arrows. I can learn to aim with practice, but how can I stop getting hit by twinmold? They just seem to run right into me and there's little I can do to stop it.

Kill twinmold before they start "trolling" you

Also, which of these is the best to use?

http://pastebin.com/2d12y8LA
http://pastebin.com/QsN70ZnC

or is there a different one?

Go with SVA's route, The other one is like an old single segment paste.

GoronGuy wrote

Go with SVA's route, The other one is like an old single segment paste.

Thanks for the help GG. Much appreciated.

You should join #mm on the SRL network.

Hello, I'm having some trouble with the Snowhead BK skip. Whenever I attempt it, I line up my angle, I do the recoil flip, and hold right. But I simply don't seem to clip out of bounds. I don't think my problem lies in the recoil flip because I've done plenty of those successfully before. I've even tried pause buffering this one although that doesn't seem to have any affect as i still don't clip out. So some questions:
Do I need ISG?
Is the timing of the recoil Flip precise?
What exact direction should I be holding after the recoil flip?

If anyone can get back to me on this that'd be great!