OoT3D: Trick Research and Discovery Thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NfQ3UGJYaM
Silver Gauntlets Chest to Mirror Shield Chest (without Longshot and not originally revealing the Mirror Shield Chest).

Greenalink wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NfQ3UGJYaM
Silver Gauntlets Chest to Mirror Shield Chest (without Longshot and not originally revealing the Mirror Shield Chest).

I have to tell you that the mirroring in this video made be VERY confused at first, then I figured that it was MQ D:

Small glitch that can save a few seconds in the Ice Cavern:

Just as Link is stepping over snow and onto ice, perform a vertical slash and you'll receive an almost superslide level burst of speed. It wears off, though, unlike superslide.

lemonairable wrote

Small glitch that can save a few seconds in the Ice Cavern:

Just as Link is stepping over snow and onto ice, perform a vertical slash and you'll receive an almost superslide level burst of speed. It wears off, though, unlike superslide.

Yeah, I noticed that while trying to do triple clip at ZD.
It is interesting that they added that.
If you have high speed while you enter the ice, you keep that speed as you slide.

today i was playing the Forest Temple in MQ and noticed that the switch in the block room that activates the hookshot targets was changed from the crystal switch to a step on switch to stop the bombchu speed trick.
skipping strength upgrades in MST MQ is going to be way harder now.

UchihaSasuke wrote

today i was playing the Forest Temple in MQ and noticed that the switch in the block room that activates the hookshot targets was changed from the crystal switch to a step on switch to stop the bombchu speed trick.
skipping strength upgrades in MST MQ is going to be way harder now.

I hadn't played the original master quest. I never would've known that. Interesting.

I tried using Farore's Wind to warp out of the Fishing Pond with the rod. It works the same way as stealing it the normal way. I wonder what would happen if you used Farore's Wind to warp into the burning Kakariko cutscene from various points...

BTW, the Ice Slide trick worked even on the original.

lemonairable wrote

I tried using Farore's Wind to warp out of the Fishing Pond with the rod. It works the same way as stealing it the normal way. I wonder what would happen if you used Farore's Wind to warp into the burning Kakariko cutscene from various points...

BTW, the Ice Slide trick worked even on the original.

Yeah, the FW method for stealing the rod is available on the ZSR oot3d pages.

However, I do not think anything specific happens if you warp into the burning kakariko cutscene.
If you set the warp point to kakariko before you start the cutscene and warp there to trigger it, I think nothing specific would happen really.
And if you set it after the cutscene you would probably just set it to the point where you stand after the cutscene, or at the kakariko village entrance.

If you enter Kakariko by doing anything other than walking from Hyrule Field -> Kakariko on 64, it will rain as if the cutscene has already occured. This includes the mountain side, meaning that some scrub could wander down from the mountain side and not understand why he no get nocturne (fortunately it's not skippable though).

Using Farore's wind in general puts a marker at your last entrance to the scene, so you can have a useless warp point in the middle of the town.

Just something interesting if no one has noticed.

While holding the HESS position when Link starts spinning and the camera fallows, if the camera hits a wall then Link stops spinning then if you use a bomb to begin the slide then Link only goes about half speed or doesn't even move.

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i guess people will now see where the last key was supposed to be used in MQ WT.

Speaking of entering Kakariko from Hyrule Field, does the Fog Glitch still work in this one? I mean the one where you leave Kakariko just after you enter it during the part of the game where the Nocturne cutscene is ready to be triggered. It causes the entire game to be coated in multi-colored fog, with the fog color and effect (Crashing the game for Hyrule Field, Switching background and foreground objects in the Lost Woods, etc.) depending on the area.

Also, totally random, but seam-walking is still in to some degree. The Gerudo archery range seam still exists (and is climbable), which should allow for Child Training Ground. The Hyrule Castle seam seems to have been fixed, though. I can't seem (...bad pun) to walk it.

Also on another topic, the ladder clip seems to have been removed. I couldn't get it to work in Zora's Domain. http://www.jaytheham.com/zcw/Ocarina_of_Time_Miscellaneous_Glitches_-_Ladder_Slip

lemonairable wrote

Speaking of entering Kakariko from Hyrule Field, does the Fog Glitch still work in this one? I mean the one where you leave Kakariko just after you enter it during the part of the game where the Nocturne cutscene is ready to be triggered. It causes the entire game to be coated in multi-colored fog, with the fog color and effect (Crashing the game for Hyrule Field, Switching background and foreground objects in the Lost Woods, etc.) depending on the area.

Also, totally random, but seam-walking is still in to some degree. The Gerudo archery range seam still exists (and is climbable), which should allow for Child Training Ground. The Hyrule Castle seam seems to have been fixed, though. I can't seem (...bad pun) to walk it.

Also on another topic, the ladder clip seems to have been removed. I couldn't get it to work in Zora's Domain. http://www.jaytheham.com/zcw/Ocarina_of_Time_Miscellaneous_Glitches_-_Ladder_Slip

We have already tried the old Gerudo Archery jump. We have also tried megaflip, damageboost, etc. in order to get over to the training grounds. No success. :(

I thought megaflip followed by damage boost was the only way to get in there, now.

i rediscovered one old trick i had found way back in 2006 in MQ Spirit Temple.

in the main room, using a bomb damage boost + hover boots lets you skip the water geiser in the first room. then, in the second room where the top is blocked by a gate, use the longshot and aim at the very corner of the climbable wall and you should clip above the door and into the room with stalfos. after that you go on as normal and get the mirror shield. this skips doing the spirit temple as child and should be handy for MQ MST (my trick is once again useful somewhere hehe)

I've filmed both of those tricks a few days ago, but the geiser skip uses a damage extended super slide and not the damage boost + hover boots. You can also skip the geiser with the crouch stab hammer recoil followed by hover boots to get the recoil boost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ghBa1Y7nM

Has anyone found a way to bypass the fairy ocarina yet? I've been theorizing about it for a while but I can't think of a way around Dodongo's Cavern. The Jabu-Jabu portion isn't a problem, as you can Navi dive into Zora's domain from Lake Hylia, and get the silver scale then.

But with Dodongo's Cavern, you would either need to bypass the wall to Darunia's room, or skip the giant rock blocking the entrance.

Of course, this is essentially pointless.

EDIT: What am I thinking, you can't play Saria's song to Darunia without an ocarina!  :P

LakesideLaboratory wrote

Has anyone found a way to bypass the fairy ocarina yet? I've been theorizing about it for a while but I can't think of a way around Dodongo's Cavern. The Jabu-Jabu portion isn't a problem, as you can Navi dive into Zora's domain from Lake Hylia, and get the silver scale then.

But with Dodongo's Cavern, you would either need to bypass the wall to Darunia's room, or skip the giant rock blocking the entrance.

Of course, this is essentially pointless.

EDIT: What am I thinking, you can't play Saria's song to Darunia without an ocarina!  :P

In MQ you're able to skip saria's song and darunia due to early bombchu.
But, you know, we still need zelda's lullaby sooner or later in order to get magic.

CloudMax wrote

In MQ you're able to skip saria's song and darunia due to early bombchu.
But, you know, we still need zelda's lullaby sooner or later in order to get magic.

Yeah, it's completely pointless, but I've been working on a low% file and it seemed pretty significant. I've been trying for a while now to do some kind of triple slash clip past the boulder, but it just wouldn't work. As far as I know (haven't actually tried, but haven't seen any confirmation.), there isn't an easy way to get bombchu's that doesn't require getting something else. Oh well, might just start a low% master quest file instead then  ::)

EDIT: On a completely unrelated note, there are purple gauntlets in this game. Whilst I was messing around with bottle on B, I got purple instead of the green ones I was expecting. I just realised that this is because I skipped the Goron bracelet on my MQ low%.

Greenalink wrote

I've filmed both of those tricks a few days ago, but the geiser skip uses a damage extended super slide and not the damage boost + hover boots. You can also skip the geiser with the crouch stab hammer recoil followed by hover boots to get the recoil boost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ghBa1Y7nM

lol beaten on my own trick. at least i confirmed it on my own.

those purple gauntlets sound nifty.

Purple gauntlets for those who would like to see them:


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And fairy ocarina as adult (not that clear):

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I'm finally getting into this game properly.

Just one question: How do I get early Bombchus in Master Quest? I've tried reaching the chest in the Bottom of the Well using TSC, but to my knowledge, there isn't a single acute angle in the entire Bottom of the Well.

lemonairable wrote

Just one question: How do I get early Bombchus in Master Quest? I've tried reaching the chest in the Bottom of the Well using TSC, but to my knowledge, there isn't a single acute angle in the entire Bottom of the Well.

After you have the slingshot, you can navi dive to Zora's Domain from Lake Hylia. From here, you can do all the things to get into Jabu-Jabu, and in MQ there's simply a chest with 10 bombchu's not too far into the dungeon.

LakesideLaboratory wrote

Purple gauntlets for those who would like to see them:


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And fairy ocarina as adult (not that clear):

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I'm finally getting into this game properly.

I assume the purple gauntlets is one of the n64 gauntlets, except that they have changed the color?
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How did you get purple?

CloudMax wrote

How did you get purple?

The purple ones replace the black ones, I think. From what I gather, it's based on what strength upgrade you have, and seeing as I skipped the goron bracelet, I should have black. This makes me if wonder if any of the other colours have changed.

Yeah, some of my MQ videos has Link wearing the Purple Gauntlets.
It is also the reliable way of getting the Double Defense Powerup.

Volvagia still hides underneath the map before the battle starts and you can hammer recoil + hover boots slide to go Out of Bounds in the Forest Temple (the same area where you TSC to skip the boss key).

does the restricted item anywhere trick work in the temple of time? i've been attempting for a while however i just can't seem to do it right at this moment :( or is it actually not possible here?

if it is it may be possible to do a new Door of Time skip? i'm not sure. when trying to triple slash clip into the walls you definitely clip through something (in the back corners, i tried) however i couldn't get my slingshot out to test whether a clip is possible?

WannaGoFast wrote

does the restricted item anywhere trick work in the temple of time? i've been attempting for a while however i just can't seem to do it right at this moment :( or is it actually not possible here?

if it is it may be possible to do a new Door of Time skip? i'm not sure. when trying to triple slash clip into the walls you definitely clip through something (in the back corners, i tried) however i couldn't get my slingshot out to test whether a clip is possible?

It does work, just got to work on your timing.

And so far, we have no way of clipping through the Door of Time

SnowMan wrote

It does work, just got to work on your timing.

And so far, we have no way of clipping through the Door of Time

Slingshot does not work however.
It cant be an item that you pull out and use afterwards.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up :)

I recall seeing someone earlier in this thread being close to through the door but not quite - may I ask how they went about achieving this?