OoT3D: Trick Research and Discovery Thread

I can confirm that you can get a maximum of 29 3/4 hearts. 30 hearts will freeze your game as soon as you try to open any menu screen/play ocarina or exit the graveyard.

Have fun to maxing your hearts too now, it's boring as hell to follow Boris the gravekeeper for hours. I never seen a person in my life walking THIS slow....

Burning Death wrote

I can confirm that you can get a maximum of 29 3/4 hearts. 30 hearts will freeze your game as soon as you try to open any menu screen/play ocarina or exit the graveyard.

Have fun to maxing your hearts too now, it's boring as hell to follow Boris the gravekeeper for hours. I never seen a person in my life walking THIS slow....

Have many hearts is just annoying anyways. I have to let a zombie take away 19 3/4 double hearts. It takes FOREVER. D:
The reason I need 1/4 of a heart is that it is required for some nasty glitches.

Here is a video of the new "Disabled B to Deku Stick" method I found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR2j45hYL0g

CloudMax wrote

Have many hearts is just annoying anyways. I have to let a zombie take away 19 3/4 double hearts. It takes FOREVER. D:
The reason I need 1/4 of a heart is that it is required for some nasty glitches.

Here is a video of the new "Disabled B to Deku Stick" method I found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR2j45hYL0g

Does this mean we don't have to actually steal the rod anymore? And I assume this would be used in segmented, of course, so single would still have to actually steal the rod?

brynnagiadrosich wrote

Does this mean we don't have to actually steal the rod anymore? And I assume this would be used in segmented, of course, so single would still have to actually steal the rod?

I have a feeling that OoT3d will use RTA.
And you do not actually have to turn off the game at all, so it should still be concidered single segment, unless save warp isn't allowed.
And yes, we do not need to steal the rod. It is possible without the rod now.
The problem is that the only currently known way to get disabled b is to do the epona death glitch, which requires Iron boots.
So this method is slower than the old one until we find a new way to disable the b button without the requirement of iron boots.

I should also mention that save & exiting the game twice does NOT give you master sword back. You're stuck with deku stick on B until you change to biggoron's sword, or go back in time.

You will be able to re-equip master sword at ganon though. So if we kill ganondorf with bottle(does it work?) and deku stick, we could still beat the game.

I think I managed to get master sword back somehow when I first found out about deku stick on B, but I am not entierly sure if that is true.

thundrio wrote

So embarrassing grezzo, they must not have done ANY bug testing on this game, or very little, because even casuals are discovering Jabu Early as adult. i came across this while browsing zelda dungeon, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02Ljyct4ac&feature=player_embedded. and then i was reading the comments and someone claimed ANOTHER person discovered it.

if they do any bug fixes on future prints of the game (akin to difference between 1.0 and 1.1 for n64), this has to be fixed.

I feel sorry for Grezzo, I really do.

I hope Grezzo makes more zelda games.

Once you get bottle on B, how do you get your sword back?

Just go trough time and then you have it back :)

Kazooie wrote

Just go trough time and then you have it back :)

I've tried this...for some reason, it's not working. I went back and forward through time...twice. And tried re-equipping it. B is still inactive.

EDIT: I've heard that 3ds games have the ability to be patched. Is this true?

brynnagiadrosich wrote

I've tried this...for some reason, it's not working. I went back and forward through time...twice. And tried re-equipping it. B is still inactive.

EDIT: I've heard that 3ds games have the ability to be patched. Is this true?

It is true. I bet they only patch online games though. There is no reason whatsoever for them to pay money to patch a game that already sell ALOT.

May make a new thread for the potential RBA route but if the route requires Iron Boots then we must get the bottle from Ruto otherwise the King will be stuck in his regular position 7 years later, frozen in Red Ice.

I'm not sure if we can go OoB with the triple slash -> put away boost clip glitch because of the ice. You can buy Blue Fire for 300 rupees but that requires 30 Gold Skulltula tokens.

Greenalink wrote

May make a new thread for the potential RBA route but if the route requires Iron Boots then we must get the bottle from Ruto otherwise the King will be stuck in his regular position 7 years later, frozen in Red Ice.

I'm not sure if we can go OoB with the triple slash -> put away boost clip glitch because of the ice. You can buy Blue Fire for 300 rupees but that requires 30 Gold Skulltula tokens.

Triple slash does not work with adult link as you slide away from the acute angle because of the ice.

I'm still unable to use my sword, even after going back and forth through time. Does anyone know how to fix this?

brynnagiadrosich wrote

I'm still unable to use my sword, even after going back and forth through time. Does anyone know how to fix this?

That is odd. The only thing I can think off is buying giants knife to re-equip. (I always make a backup file when messing with B)

As I've just managed to skip the trials with Mega Flip we can now Skip both Hover Boots and Hookshot.

How to:
- Count the white lines on the stairs we did the Trials skip with Hover boots on
- You start counting at the upper part of the stairs. The right position is between the 6th and 7th line
- Line up with the Loading zone
- Drop a Bomb, Wait 2/3 second and pull out a second bomb
- throw the bomb towards the loading zone
- Mega Flip, get hit by the bomb, victory

Edit:
I can finally record my discoveries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M68ryXAdO1c&feature=channel_video_title

MrGrunz wrote

As I've just managed to skip the trials with Mega Flip we can now Skip both Hover Boots and Hookshot.

How to:
- Count the white lines on the stairs we did the Trials skip with Hover boots on
- You start counting at the upper part of the stairs. The right position is between the 6th and 7th line
- Line up with the Loading zone
- Drop a Bomb, Wait 2/3 second and pull out a second bomb
- throw the bomb towards the loading zone
- Mega Flip, get hit by the bomb, victory

When can I be on your level?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCW4DfyF0z4
Spirit Temple super early.
Gate skip, crossing huanted wasteland etc.

i don't know if this happened on the 64 vevrsion but i got a softlock when getting a big poe.

basically, the text that the big poe triggered at the very moment i hit A to get on epona. the poe's speech triggered while i was on her and after that i was stuck in place. couldn't move and could only shoot arrows. fortunately, the menu worked and i save+quitted.

Okey guy, I was wrong about the disabled B method.
It works differently with the Lon lon method!
However I got it to work.
We do not have to go to the fishing pond, so we can take out the Bean from our route.

To get deku stick on B with the Lon Lon method you have to do this:
Complete young link without Kokiri Sword
Go to Lon Lon Ranch and pay to ride.
Mount onto a horse and end the horse riding.
Pay to ride again. You will now have Deku Stick on B.

Damn it took me a long time to figure out that what you had to do was something as simple as just paying to ride again.
On the other hand, I think I am seeing some pattern in this, all this may be false, and it is just some guessing.
When you steal rod, you have to jump into water and return to the area where you first disabled your B button.
At Lon Lon you have to pay to ride again, returning you to the place where you first disabled your B button.
It may seem odd, but I think you have to return to the area you first disabled your B button in order to turn it into a Deku Stick.
Just think about it. When I did the epona death glitch, I exited the area, returned to the area where I first disabled my B button, inside the Lake Hylia water. This trick did however require a reset.


I am sorry for not telling you guys earlier, but I have not had access to internet till now!
I will update the ZSR page later, cleaning up all the false information regarding all this.
Once again, I am sorry. I could not have known. All my testing pointed to the fact that it would work the way I assumed it would.

Ohh well, atleast this makes the run faster. We do not have to go to Lake Hylia as adult link, and the beans are no longer required.

You can pause buffer with HOME on 3ds :)

Also, you can unpause the game then press home and pause buffer an input and it will do it immediately out of the game pause. Yes that means that you could make a pause buffered swap item anywhere.

anyone know how to skip king zora as an adult because i skipped him as a kid so he never moved now he is in my way and i cant get to the ice cavern. he wont accept rutos letter either

poshnomolbralpku wrote

anyone know how to skip king zora as an adult because i skipped him as a kid so he never moved now he is in my way and i cant get to the ice cavern. he wont accept rutos letter either

There is currently no way to pass him as adult.
The ice causes you to slide away while performing the tripple slash clip, making that impossible.

CHILD LONGSHOT: It's almost a possibility :)
If you make the hookshot into a bottle (bombchu on II), you are able to equip that bottle to child. If you grab the longshot, then it will revert the bottle back to a longshot. Basically, the only thing stopping you from using longshot as a kid would be crossing those 2 rooms as child/adult link without hookshot. Now that we don't have isg... because fw points will go away when we travel through time.

You think we could use that OOB in water temple to swim there ???

edit: im gonna ba hookshot to b and then we have it :)

Acryte wrote

CHILD LONGSHOT: It's almost a possibility :)
If you make the hookshot into a bottle (bombchu on II), you are able to equip that bottle to child. If you grab the longshot, then it will revert the bottle back to a longshot. Basically, the only thing stopping you from using longshot as a kid would be crossing those 2 rooms as child/adult link without hookshot. Now that we don't have isg... because fw points will go away when we travel through time.

You think we could use that OOB in water temple to swim there ???

We are gonna test to BA hookshot onto B to pass the room.
Go Acryte, go!

If the game doesnt softlock when young link uses longshot, it will be the best thing ever.

guay. Apparently grezzo checks the buttons when you go through time and says, HEY you aren't supposed to have that adult item on your button and then removes it. That means you can't RBA hookshot and go get the longshot as adult, you have to go grab longshot as a child in order for it to be on your C buttons :(

Maxx is still testing mq though so it may work in that

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vMfdajME0o

???????????

Completely useless thing that happened to me was in just a normal playthrough of Deku Tree, a hanging skultulla got stuck in it's falling animation and froze, but the sound of it falling over and over continued.

Kokiri sword-less route with adult horse ride RBA to cut scene B light arrows? Is it a boner or...?

I don't know if that issue is fixed yet but there might be a trick to enter Jabu kid w/o bottle... I somehow managed to get through him, I was swiming right under his mouth, right under the warp, then again I wasn't able to trigger it. I dived under the platform and clipped through his lips. Just saying, maybe there's something to do with that?

I don't know about clipping from under him, but I discovered something too about jabu jabu, but I don't know if it's already known to the glitching community. I found that the main problem with jabu jabu no fish is that you can't climb on the fence beside him anymore. However, it is still possible to get on the fence, by climbing on the perpendicular fence on the side, angling yourself, and doing a sidejump +slash. I tried doing the glitch the old way, but it never worked. But I sucked at this glitch on the N64, it took me like 200times to get it...So I could just be doing it wrong. I mean, why would they prevent us from climbing the fences beside Jabu Jabu if they corrected the glitch anyway?I think they might have been lazy and that there is still a way to get the glitch working.

0nyx wrote

I don't know about clipping from under him, but I discovered something too about jabu jabu, but I don't know if it's already known to the glitching community. I found that the main problem with jabu jabu no fish is that you can't climb on the fence beside him anymore. However, it is still possible to get on the fence, by climbing on the perpendicular fence on the side, angling yourself, and doing a sidejump +slash. I tried doing the glitch the old way, but it never worked. But I sucked at this glitch on the N64, it took me like 200times to get it...So I could just be doing it wrong. I mean, why would they prevent us from climbing the fences beside Jabu Jabu if they corrected the glitch anyway?I think they might have been lazy and that there is still a way to get the glitch working.

The problem is not the fence at all. I found out how to get onto them on the release day.
The problem is that they MOVED the entire loading zone SLIGHTLY to the left, making it impossible to clip where you usally did it.
And it does not appear to be possible from the right either.

Maybe it would be possible to get into him by swimming on the left side of him somehow, as you are able to enter as adult link there, they may very well have added a pixel or two that stick out of Jabu jabu as young link aswell.