OoT3D: Trick Research and Discovery Thread

CloudMax wrote

If you cant do that from there, try to
1. Hover boost from the seam walking area (you must go a bit to the left where there is no collision, as the roof seems to block you for to long otherwise.
2. Same as above but with bombslide insted.

And I would also like someone to try hover boost / bombslide from the area above the prison you get thrown into, and see if you can reach the right side of the gate, on top of the mountain.
You can still get onto the edge above the prison by standing on the box and sidewalk with hoverboots and then sidehop and slash.

My consistency is to bad to try these out properly.

Didn't work with megaflip, I'll try hoverslide.
You can also damage slide with hoverboots on, Link will have a little acceleration time and then he goes like the normal one, exepted he does larger turns.

2 more confirmations:

Master Quest Dodongo's Cavern early bomb bag shortcut still works

Original Ganon Castle Trials Skip without Hoverboots

I will definitely film those along with the OoB hookshots soon.

Greenalink wrote

2 more confirmations:

Master Quest Dodongo's Cavern early bomb bag shortcut still works

Original Ganon Castle Trials Skip without Hoverboots

I will definitely film those along with the OoB hookshots soon.

Could you do the OoB videos first? :P

Yeah, those OoB hookshots are easier to do than the no Hoverboots Trials Skip. My filming setup does not let me produce these high quality edit in minutes :( But since these clips are short, they may be up in 2 hours at the fastest.

Apparently Twinrova's Double Dynamite phase will ALWAYS shoot the 3 same shots at you in a row, she will not change it up.

aleckermit wrote

Apparently Twinrova's Double Dynamite phase will ALWAYS shoot the 3 same shots at you in a row, she will not change it up.

I can confirm this is most definitely not true. I've seen a couple variations of the pattern.

If TSA statement is true then I got to be really lucky getting the 3 same element shot pattern for 4 cycles in a row.

i thought the shots were always the same 3 in a row in the n64 version and it only got combined if you missed and got hit.

TSA wrote

I can confirm this is most definitely not true. I've seen a couple variations of the pattern.

Same here

UchihaSasuke wrote

i thought the shots were always the same 3 in a row in the n64 version and it only got combined if you missed and got hit.

If you're just talking about speedrun conditions, aka first cycle only, then she *usually* (I've never seen her deviate here) fires same three elements in a row. If you go beyond first cycle (yes, it's possible...), she mixes it up.

hm i see.

it's been too long since i did more than 1 cycle against her. in the 3DS version, the only temple i haven't done yet is spirit.

well, using damage to clip through the fire around the boss key still works in the spirit temple.
good to know.

Hover bombsliding to Ganon Castle early saves about 18 seconds over triggering the rainbow bridge. Pretty hard to do though, good for segmented:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw2TgIyJ9B8

In MQ 3D, actor glitch in jabu still works. Since ISG doesn't work, you can't bypass the water jets so you have to go around.

Keep Master Sword during Ganon fight using Din's Fire (very easy):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E7QrFya1Q8

aleckermit wrote

Apparently Twinrova's Double Dynamite phase will ALWAYS shoot the 3 same shots at you in a row, she will not change it up.

It changes when she has about two or three hits left

Not sure if it's that useful, but I think you can use Kazooie's Hookshot trick to reach the Boss Door in Spirit Temple early, allowing you to bypass the mirror puzzle. From that room before the mirror puzzle with the platform that eventually lowers down, it looks like the face of the giant statue isn't loaded yet. I couldn't get a clear shot at the fence you latch onto, but I think it might be possible. It's hard to tell if the face is/isn't loaded from the angle for me, though.

^ about the Hookshot clip for the Spirit Temple boss door. It's now possible to climb onto the shoulders... but they seem to have added an invisible wall on the adult side where the raised snake section is. Not that the Hookshot clip is that useful any more what with the boss key skip not doable due to hovering being removed.

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Not sure if it's that useful, but I think you can use Kazooie's Hookshot trick to reach the Boss Door in Spirit Temple early, allowing you to bypass the mirror puzzle. From that room before the mirror puzzle with the platform that eventually lowers down, it looks like the face of the giant statue isn't loaded yet. I couldn't get a clear shot at the fence you latch onto, but I think it might be possible. It's hard to tell if the face is/isn't loaded from the angle for me, though.

i tried this, but i either couldn't find the angle, or the part you hookshot to isn't loaded either (since it moves when you hook to it) it's likely also an actor.

Ah, ok. Wasn't sure if I was just not being patient enough. Only other thing I tried was megaflip to Fire Temple boss door (old trick) to bypass most of the dungeon in MQ since they give you Megaton/Boss Key super early.

Ocarina of Time 3D: 2 Out of Bound spots in Ganon's Castle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQlSdRK4HIc

Ocarina of Time 3D: 2 Out of Bound spots and 1 time saver in Shadow Temple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMPHdY29dEQ

I'll be uploading these videos tomorrow:
-Master Quest Dodongo's Cavern early bombs
-2 Out of Bound spots in Spirit Temple
-Ganon's Castle Trial Skip without Hoverboots
All of them are filmed, now I need to edit them but it's a bit late for me to do so.

Regarding the death hole glitch. What do you think causes it. Is it because its a cutscene followed by a warp and you break out of that cutscene? If so what about other cutscenes that warp you?

Foward slide makes it across quick sand in Wasteland.
You can megaflip off the ladder and land on the seam, but can't get to where you normally sidehop to gate skip. But you can probably do some crazy megaflip strat to find a way across the gate.

We are super close to Spirit Temple before going adult ^_^

So they changed the loading zone for jabu so you can't enter without giving him a fish, but make adult in jabu much easier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9e7c1clwgw&feature=youtube_gdata

i don't know if it has been confirmed already but Lens of Truth are completely skippable in this game. i made it though the whole Shadow Temple without them and the desert was already confirmed to be passable without lens (and trials are skipped once again)

a compilation of all the skippable main items should be made.
as of now i think silver/gold gauntlets, lens of truth and iron boots can be skipped.

UchihaSasuke wrote

i don't know if it has been confirmed already but Lens of Truth are completely skippable in this game. i made it though the whole Shadow Temple without them and the desert was already confirmed to be passable without lens (and trials are skipped once again)

a compilation of all the skippable main items should be made.
as of now i think silver/gold gauntlets, lens of truth and iron boots can be skipped.

Isn't it possible to skip slingshot aswell?

Don't forget bolero, requiem, serenade and prelude.

oh yeah, i forgot those. since i'm doing 100% i didn't pay attention.

skippable "required" items so far:

slingshot
bullet bag
lens of truth
iron boots
silver gauntlets
gold gauntlets
bolero
serenade
requiem
prelude
song of storms
bombchus
fire arrows

funnily, the only one of these that i tried but couldn't get past was slingshot skip. i failed it in the original too.


RingRush edit: added some more items you forgot ;)...also I'm pretty sure hover boots are skippable w/ megaflip but without confirmation I won't add that

Megajump:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HgxcV8rlYo

Ocarina of Time 3D: 2 Out of Bound spots in Spirit Temple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6_TEV4OXo

Ocarina of Time 3D: Major Shortcut in Dodongo's Cavern [Master Quest]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_UzA3muFw

Ocarina of Time 3D Glitch: Skip Ganon's Trials without Hoverboots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD-F1Kgtowk