The Wind Waker

WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

Started by Phazon · 29 Sep 2009 · 1,124 replies

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Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#961
Razor7581, thanks for the reply!  I counted 4 red flashes from both the bomb and the barrier.  You were spot on.  It was coincidental!

Has anyone tried to land on the bridge railing, do the knockback cancel, and then leaf their way around the bridge?

With magic armor, I think bomb damage still knocks Link down, but damage when in KoRL doesn't have any recoil.  Any idea how it interacts with the barrier behind Hyrule?  Does storage change the armor's hitbox?

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#962

Razor7581, thanks for the reply!  I counted 4 red flashes from both the bomb and the barrier.  You were spot on.  It was coincidental!

Has anyone tried to land on the bridge railing, do the knockback cancel, and then leaf their way around the bridge?

We have tried doing multiple things from the bridge railing. In case you are unaware, methods to get on the railing can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E2vaLf6lLtM for English, and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0eib-qfT3fE for Japanese.

There's no way to leaf around the bridge due to the invisible wall behind the repulsive barrier. It is also not possible to ledge clip through the invisible wall from the railing, as the railing is not solid from the side (meaning that you can't grab it). Abahbob recently proved that using his "scene cancel" door storage it is possible to skip the barrier, however there are no such doors in Hyrule (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1WJXtP66-Q).
Also, again although it is currently impossible to start a hover from inside of the damage barrier, using codes someone (can't remember who) demonstrated that if you could zombie hover while within the repulsive barrier, and additionally can hover over the barrier, the hover itself is ridiculous. If a zombie hover could be started within the barrier, one idea is to use a 0 heart wind waker dive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH7Or8zlHV0) to dive beneath the barrier and then hover from under it to the loading zone to Ganon's Tower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs4-dbGWhwc), but that has it's own set of problems.

There's a page on this site that talks a bit about barrier skip, which can be found here: http://www.zeldaspeedruns.com/tww/Miscellaneous/barrier-skip. I don't think it adds much to what I just said, but it might help you come up with some ideas and better see what all we have tried.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#963
I was messing around with storage on Windfall and now, whenever I pull out the Wind Waker Link is is teleported to a door on the island. I was just wondering if is already a known thing or is useful at all?

EDIT: Also happens if I interact with an NPC or a decoration base.

Last edited 03 Jun 2013, 19:36 by Monophage.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#964
tdutchnick96 wrote

Can yiu make a video of that? Seems interesting


I spoke to Yashi about it, it's already known about.  He said he'd try some stuff linked to water storage.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#965
With the Medli cut scene skip that Cosmo's been doing recently, if you turn before doing C-up the camera is behind Link after she talks to you - just makes running into the water more straightforward.

EDIT: Actually I don't think this skips the c/s.

Last edited 09 Jun 2013, 17:59 by Monophage.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#966
I was messing around with storage in Forest Haven, and found that is you store the deku leaf, exit the area, then re-collect the deku leaf you will get the max magic meter.

I also created some AR codes to get storage, if anyone else wants them. For both press down on the d-pad to activate storage.

PAL:
0A3F5018 00000004
043D17C8 00000001

NTSC:
0A3ED84A 00000004
043C9EA0 00000001

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#967

I was messing around with storage in Forest Haven, and found that is you store the deku leaf, exit the area, then re-collect the deku leaf you will get the max magic meter.

Yep, this is already known.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#968

I was messing around with storage in Forest Haven, and found that is you store the deku leaf, exit the area, then re-collect the deku leaf you will get the max magic meter.

I also created some AR codes to get storage, if anyone else wants them. For both press down on the d-pad to activate storage.

PAL:
0A3F5018 00000004
043D17C8 00000001

NTSC:
0A3ED84A 00000004
043C9EA0 00000001


Wow thanks! an AR code like this is extremely helpful for people testing the game :)

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#969
I was testing a bit with the new Makar teleport glitch and wanted to share what I've found:
- You can do this at just about any point in the dungeon. The only requirements for you to be able to "Lift" in the first room are that Makar must be in any room other that the first room, and you must exit and re-enter the dungeon.
- When you first set down Makar and teleport, Makar teleports as well (a distance a bit shorter than Link).
- How far you teleport (for example if you teleport across the first main room) depends on what room Makar was last in before you did the lift glitch in the first room of the dungeon. If you left him in the room with the first warp pot, you will not teleport completely across the first room. However, if you leave him in the next (or any subsequent) room you will teleport completely across the first room.
- There, however, some catches to this:
1) If you are standing at the top of the stairs in the first warp pot room and try and teleport across, you will die (I presume it has something to do with Makar teleporting OoB or something).
2) If you are at the bottom of the stairs you will teleport to the other side of the room, as will Makar (no death).

Unless for some reason the wind temple is completed in a single segment in a segmented run, I sadly don't see a good use for this. (Also doesn't seem to work with Medli in Earth Temple.)

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#971
Gohdan's hands can be damaged with the sword (single hit disables them).

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#972
http://www.twitch.tv/uyniko/c/2546160

Gossip stone skip in FF1...

Hold C down
Release
Hold left
When you are near the wall roll.

If you bonk in the wall you can still get it, press L, tap down and try again until you get it, the trick is press A near the wall, with every bonk you lose a green rupee basicly, unless you want to risk it... Is almost imposible to fail it and saves something like 30 secs in english.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#975

Doesnt that cause a softlock later on with FF2 visit?

Yes, but the softlock occurs when you enter the pirate ship for the bombs. However there are still some instances in which this could be used.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#976
With the new method of getting storage with bombs, is it possible to clip out of the miniboss room in the Wind Temple by getting chest storage on the hookshot chest? If it is, it might save a few seconds because it lets you skip the chest opening animation and hookshotting up to hit the switch. There might also be other miniboss rooms where you can do this, but most of them you just savewarp out anyway, so it wouldn't really save time. Also if you don't get the storage quickly, it might cost time, so even if it's possible, it may not be worth it idk  :P

Last edited 12 Jul 2013, 17:44 by nathanisbored.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#977

With the new method of getting storage with bombs, is it possible to clip out of the miniboss room in the Wind Temple by getting chest storage on the hookshot chest?

Even if it is possible to clip out of the mini-boss room, it won't get you anywhere as the main room doesn't have a loading zone that is on the same map as the mini-boss room. In other words, even if you clip out you can't get to the main room that way--the only way to get to it is by opening the door.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#978

Even if it is possible to clip out of the mini-boss room, it won't get you anywhere as the main room doesn't have a loading zone that is on the same map as the mini-boss room. In other words, even if you clip out you can't get to the main room that way--the only way to get to it is by opening the door.


I'm not sure what you mean... my idea was to clip through the door in the miniboss room to touch the loading zone behind it. That should load the main room like normal right?

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#979

I'm not sure what you mean... my idea was to clip through the door in the miniboss room to touch the loading zone behind it. That should load the main room like normal right?

Sorry for my bad explanation, but no. The loading zone for the main room does not exist except for when you open the door.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#983
tdutchnick96 wrote

I'll try as soon as possible

I don't know if this is useful but anyway: http://youtu.be/urB_MtySE80


I think this guy has done just about everything that can be done in that room already: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSqgi0th19s

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#985
That can also be done with bombs early, but still what a neat way to do it. Good find. Boomerang is going to break the game soon :) Kappa

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#986
Was more about the zombie boss but hey that too xD... I can kill him with 1 real throw 33%-20% of the time, so someone with more experience than me may be able to do it almost all the time, I started to play this less than 2 weeks ago.

By the way, kill him with the boomerang is a good backup strat if you fail the quickspins, you can throw it 1 or 2 times and kill him like that, I'm sure is way faster than cut the things again.

PD: Boomerang OP  :)

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#987
I found a consistent way to get on the top fan in the fan room in Wind Temple while doing the new chest storage route. Even though it's a little slower, it seems a lot safer than the current leaf + jumpslash method, and it seems like I can get it 100% consistently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7truMZ6j2Y

Edit:
Here's a good setup for it: http://imgur.com/Q6wqad6

Last edited 22 Jul 2013, 02:44 by wooferzfg1.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#989
Hi everyone.  No idea if either of these things I found are useful/have been found before, but I was just messing around at the barrier when I discovered these two things.

Used the debug menu via dolphin with some AR codes to get to the barrier, so ignore the obvious impossibilities in the screenshots.
First: the boomerang will lock onto something under the bridge if you go up the the invisible wall and just aim past the barrier a bunch of times.  It locks on at some specific angle I haven't figured out yet.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cue70269xr9v4ax/2013-07-30_13-49-53.jpg
This locked on while looking near Ganon's tower

And second, this is probably known, but if you go at a good angle, you can throw the grappling hook through the barrier.  The issue is there's nothing to grab on to.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9yn9h056vn8ebod/2013-07-30_13-52-51.jpg
I tried giving myself the hookshot and shooting and it could go through as well, but nothing was able to be grabbed by it.

Anyway, hope to get more into speedrunning.

Last edited 30 Jul 2013, 18:38 by smellyfeetyouhave.

Re: WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

#990
The boomerang lock-on thing is known. Not sure about the second one