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I also found a fixed camera glitch in the southern swamp on the path to woodfall.

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It's only possible to do on the 1st mushroom. All you do is enter the area, and without doing anything else, put on/change masks. Move forward and the camera will be fixed in the same position. It's not possible to use the pictobox and changing masks/using an instrument will change the position of the camera to your current spot. If you leave the mushroom the camera will return to normal.

I was thinking of a use for this and was wondering what would happen if you entered the cutscene trigger while in this state. Maybe the cutscene won't load? Could someone test this out?

@Weegeechan  The swamp title deed skip is known (by not many) because they fixed the little roof in the Poisoned version of the swamp, but they forgot about the Clean version of the swamp, so after beating woodfall you can just clip through the roof normally with goron pound :p
And you can also do that you showed in the pic from the front side of the roof too heheh

Weegeechan wrote

without doing anything else, put on/change masks.

Just for clarification, does that include being human and changing to Deku?

Edit: I tried putting on the Deku mask right after entering, and the glitch didn't work, Maybe I was doing it wrong, but I think it only works if you're switching masks from one form to another. I'm gonna try that now.

Arnge wrote

Just for clarification, does that include being human and changing to Deku?

Yes, you can use any transformation mask. I should note that, you have to enter the area with the camera facing the loading zone or else the camera won't be fixed when entering southern swamp. Then when entering the area, don't do anything besides putting on the mask. Btw have the transformation mask on X or Y (couldn't get the glitch to work with I or II for some reason)

@gaby: Ah, I think I remember a post about that previously actually :P Through this I discovered a new technique though (I think?). It let's you maneuver Goron in air after pounding. The frame you pound, press A right away and the direction you want to move in. He will move slightly but it will be just enough to get on top of certain ledges. In Clock Town it can be used to get the 20r chest in SCT without the Hookshot, get into Stock Pot at night without Deku, and to get into Kafei's hideout without the Zora Mask.

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You can get into that tree and bomb boost from the branch to the ledge.

Ah, I got the glitch :) Unfortunately, it doesn't skip the cutscene. It plays even with the locked camera. Great finds, though.

Arnge wrote

Ah, I got the glitch :) Unfortunately, it doesn't skip the cutscene. It plays even with the locked camera. Great finds, though.

Haha, that sounds awesome! :D Oh well, thanks for testing this out anyways  :)

Wait seriously??? Can you do this to get to Great Bay early? That sounds like you can get over some pretty hight ledge... please test and see if you can. This would be so fast

It isn't looking like it. I tried it about 5 times, he just slides back instead of landing on it. To be fair, though, I've never tried the jump before.

@Weegeechan that's pretty cool actually didn't know that one about Kafei early with Goron Pound hahah, where else could we goron pound like that, besides these kind of ledges..

Can we reach the top of the Ikana rock instead or TSCing into it?

Alright, I take back what I said earlier, since i can't do the glitch in Laundry Pool or ECT.

JabaTheJefe wrote

Okay so I can't seem to get the goht warp to work.. It keeps sending me out of bounds, I've tried copying the position in Ikana that I've seen in all the videos, AND I've tried the bed in the post office.. What am I doing wrong??  ???

Do you have the v1.1 patch? Are you duping bottle over Gibdo mask? Are you at night time? Warp only works night time-> day time *transition of New Day. You need to catch HSW into that bottle THEN play fast ISOT so you go into 0th Day. Then play SoS to Clock Town and wait at postman bed until the Day transitions. (It would be wise to play SODT to 5PM night time so you don't have to wait alot). You should pop in bounds if you wait at the right spot in 0th day.

I found some interesting Goron Air Manuever spots:

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Also, I discovered a way to make time stop while in buildings/mini-games. I believe this was in the original but I guess it required you to store the SoT text. All you need to do now is play either SoDT/SoS depending on the area you're in.

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When the text pops up, just don't press A and then all time will be stopped. Sorry if this was found already, but I found nothing on it so far

Yes I did all of this, i always just appear in the center of the map and don't pop in bounds, it's the only wrong warp that I can't get to work!! And no I have version 1.0

Whenever I do it I go to the path to Ikana, and I don't move once I'm in. I don't move at all. It always works for me.

I found a way to skip using the bow for the rising platform section of Woodfall.

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You can light a Deku Stick on the torch already in the room (by crouching) and roll jump off of the ledges to make it to this torch in time. You can then bomb boost off the left side of the platform to make it to the boss door room.

So technically Woodfall can be completed without ever getting the bow :o Gekko can be defeated using Zora's boomerangs and the rest of the dungeon doesn't need the bow anyways.

Hey guys! I am finally back from being away for SUCH a long time... how is everyone?!?! I see how there are so many sweet discoveries!

Anyone willing to catch me up quickly on the major things?

@hcbboyhammer12 one of the major things has been that you can action swap out of Tatl's text box and you can now skip getting fire arrows, action swap stick from hookshot/bow to get the fire arrow to unfreeze Goht, also (i guess is not that major but you can now get bottle on b on Zora :p

Weegeechan wrote

I found some interesting Goron Air Manuever spots:

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Also, I discovered a way to make time stop while in buildings/mini-games. I believe this was in the original but I guess it required you to store the SoT text. All you need to do now is play either SoDT/SoS depending on the area you're in.

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When the text pops up, just don't press A and then all time will be stopped. Sorry if this was found already, but I found nothing on it so far

Many jumps can be done without even moving the goron in the air. (all the ones in clocktown at the very least, and has been possible since n64 as far as I know) with proper positioning, he can jump up onto most trees, which isn't something new either. (the fact that you still have control during pound isn't new either, it's just that it wasn't enough control to make any difference).
Zora Link can even flip through some branches to get up onto trees. (possible on at least one graveyard tree)

And timestop with the song textboxes has been know since pretty much day one.

Though, using the pound to get up onto the tree, that's something that I haven't seen before. (same goes for the roof)

gabyelnuevo wrote

@hcbboyhammer12 one of the major things has been that you can action swap out of Tatl's text box and you can now skip getting fire arrows, action swap stick from hookshot/bow to get the fire arrow to unfreeze Goht, also (i guess is not that major but you can now get bottle on b on Zora :p

This pretty much. Also the Epona clip into Milk bar at night allows us to warp to STT and skip Elegy. and the Deku sword which gives pretty much the dmg of GFS. The any% route changed alot in the past 2 weeks.

And yes Cloudmax is right, the Timestop via textbox has been known since a while.

Oh ok, well I at least found a couple of new things I suppose! :P Sorry for posting any already found stuff (and for potential future cases too). It's hard knowing what has been found without there being any videos or written down findings for some of these lol

I will add that the pages for MM3D being pretty lacking in content definitely makes it hard to keep track of tricks and discoveries :P

I forget, is there ever a need for the bow outside Woodfall Temple? Because if there isn't (Not likely), then the bow skip could be really useful.

Killing Gyorg. Inverting Stone Tower. Killing Twinmold. Killing Majora.

All these either require or are greatly sped up by using the bow.

By the looks of it, skipping raising the platform might be faster. It would be nice if this could be tested!

Either way, shouldn't bow skip be technically possible if the fire arrows were just acquired later? Not that that is faster or anything.

The bow comes with a quiver. You can't have arrows with any elemental arrow without it.

Yeah even if you 'equip' an elemental arrow, you need to have the bow item to actually knock an arrow.

So I finally got my hands on the game (YAY!), so I'm gonna do some testing on the Majora fight to see what I can do.
Possible theories:
-Gettting Wrath against a wall or in a corner makes it easier for the remains to hit with light balls
*Jumpslash cancel (rotate circle pad at the end of a jumpslash) with Deku sword can stunlock Majora if done properly since it allows u to get another jumpslash on him

*EDIT: HOLLEEE CRAP. Jumpslash cancel destroys wrath with 5 jump slashes from the Deku sword. They are all possible to land on him. Video coming soon.

Jeville wrote

Goron Elder snowball. Real Final Day, cycle 2's, and cycle 5's. Cycle 15's is here.

That snowball just grows in size based on the real day counter, rather than the day of the week then?

Oh also I was wondering, in normal MM have you ever gotten outside the normal 0-4 day range?

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWI0sO8U3-c
Had a bad beginning to the fight, but that's not important. Once you got the rhythm down, its really easy.