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Can someone explain how to do timestop with ocarina?

mzxrules wrote

That snowball just grows in size based on the real day counter, rather than the day of the week then?

Oh also I was wondering, in normal MM have you ever gotten outside the normal 0-4 day range?

Goron Elder can only be seen in the snowball on Final Day in MM3D. No snowball on 1st/2nd Day in all cycles and his position doesn't change on day anymore (uses normal MM's 2nd Day position).

No, I never did. I think it's still only possible with cheats for normal MM. :(

I just had an idea. Wouldn't it be quickest to use Action Swap-Fire Arrow Deku Stick in the Woodfall room I mentioned? It seems like it would be quicker than the current way it's done and it would be quicker than the Deku Stick method I mentioned.

Weegeechan wrote

I just had an idea. Wouldn't it be quickest to use Action Swap-Fire Arrow Deku Stick in the Woodfall room I mentioned? It seems like it would be quicker than the current way it's done and it would be quicker than the Deku Stick method I mentioned.

If you mean the main room with the spinny flower platform, I tried, but he just shoots the middle of the torch without lightning it.

I'd say FESSing through the woods should be done, it's not too hard after some practice.
If I can do it, you guys ought to be able.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69pTGV1zUkA&feature=youtu.be

Jeville wrote

Goron drown warps you to your last entrance in the original, and it can still be done in MM3D (except the area doesn't reload). When you're at an edge, go down to drown by doing quick flicks with the circle pad as your only movement, and be quick to let go when you drown. If done right, you'll be at your last entrance after two drowns. If your last entrance came from an owl warp, the area will reload and you'll be human. When I tried this in the Termina Field grotto from the Great Bay entrance, I respawned out of bounds.

Edit: This can be of use for the Zora moon dungeon in 100%.

Something like this you meant? Lel http://t.co/0DqztTnWAp

gabyelnuevo wrote

Something like this you meant? Lel http://t.co/0DqztTnWAp

The result is the same, but the method is not. It can be done quick with any ledges with Goron form alone and the drowns don't need to happen fast. Do a Goron drown and the game will position where you should be. Fall back in the water with very slight tap movements, and repeat once more (with as much delay as you want, it doesn't matter how fast). It will fool the game into thinking you fell in without making a movement (thinking you're stuck in a loop hence having to do it twice) and puts you to your last entrance as a solution.

I recently purchased a decent SD card (http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-HD-Ready-Frustration-Free-SDSDXPA-032G-AFFP/dp/B007NDL56A) and have found that home buffering is far more consistent! Note that this is the only game I have loaded on this card.

Player-1 wrote

Can someone explain how to do timestop with ocarina?

Just do normal timestop, but land right in front of a gossip stone.

Okay, so I was in the middle of a practice run, and when I tried to use the deku sword, he pulled out a title deed instead... What would have caused this, because I'm positive that I did it correctly. I still had Kokiri Sword on Hylian Link from doing goron weird b, but deku got a title deed instead of GFS for some reason.

When you're on Epona as Deku, you need to unequip the Deku Mask to take it off before you dismount. You need to dismount in Hylian form.

But that's what I did.

Did you use Zora to clip into milk bar when doing STT warp? Cause when I used Zora for that I also got a title deed instead of sword. Gotta use Link

I didn't know that you could use Zora to clip into the milk bar. Thinking back on it, I remember Tatl telling me that I couldn't reach the horse after I transformed into deku. Would that have caused it?

Small Clock Town timesaver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0Okpu8L9ZY
Thank goodness that tower has two sides to it.
I'm thinking about adding this to the Clock Town on this site, but I wanna wait for someone to get a higher quality recording of it. I've added the jumpslash cancel section, but it would be good if someone got a better quality recording of the video I put on there, too.

Well then I'd suggest what Jeville said, make sure you unequip the deku mask right after you transform. Don't hit any other buttons until your human again, same goes when you store again to get your sword back.

I'm not sure if this was already discovered or if it has any use in a speedrun, but I found an interesting way to "teleport" Link using Epona and Mask storage. And you can bypass loading zones with it.

First perform Mask Storage and run up to Epona and climb on her just like you would while doing the Deku sword glitch. So now you should be on Epona as a mask form. Un-equip the mask from the X/Y/I/II button so now you're human Link. Without pressing any buttons, move the circle pad, Epona will start moving but Link won't. Now if you stop Epona and press A, Link will climb on Epona, then you can press A again to dismount, and voila, you've teleported!

But I also found a use for this, which is bypassing loading zones. I'm not sure if it's useful for anything in a speedrun but you can because apparently Epona doesn't trigger them.

So first, do the things you did up there to move Epona without Link, then move her into a loading zone. Rather then triggering it, she'll run right past it. So once you've gotten past it. Press A to climb on Epona and then again to dismount, and you'll be on the other side of the loading zone without triggering it. I thought this could be useful to maybe do something with Epona in clocktown? Because you can walk through some walls because they're not loaded.

Tell me what you think!

yeah AJPirate, that's being known since MM, that was one way you could get to hidden owl without explosives or cheats :P

For those who have more knowledge on the route than me, this may sound dumb to you, but I think bow is skipable. You can QuickDraw/action swap a fire arrow with hookshot. This may mean r.i.p bow but I'm not sure.

Edit: Nevermind. You have to have quiver

Squirelofjustice wrote

For those who have more knowledge on the route than me, this may sound dumb to you, but I think bow is skipable. You can QuickDraw/action swap a fire arrow with hookshot. This may mean r.i.p bow but I'm not sure.

Edit: Nevermind. You have to have quiver

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I came here to discover more about the glitches of MM3D...
I do not know what Action Swap is. Tell me...

Jeville wrote

Heart piece duplication!! You need 5th Day to do this:

1. Save at Mountain Village with Gibdo Mask slot changed to a bottle.
2. Quit the game, get a stopwatch.
3. Start a timer when you open the game.
4. When timer reaches 1:25, catch HSW.
5. Inverted Song of Time quickly. If purple banner says 2nd/Final Day, start over.*
6. Soar to town.
7. Speak to the carpenter carrying wood.
8. Carpenter will stay in place. Put on Postman's hat and check mailbox.
9. You'll move around with the text. Hookshot the 20 Rupee chest.
10. Face the camera to the mailbox and open the chest.
11. Gold Rupee will appear on Link but you'll get a heart piece and another.
12. Do not check the mailbox. Go back in time.
13. Repeat all steps. You get two pieces each time.

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Notes:
The carpenter will either have to be close enough to the mailbox, or to have the camera facing him when you check.
Tapping buttons will not work when you move around with text, so only B/X/Y can be used.
*If you take Ocarina out fast enough to not see purple banner, you'll be on 0th Day so advance to midnight before soaring out to take you to dawn of 5th Day.
Google docs for 5th Day stuff can be viewed here.

FIFTH DAY??? Vid please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjuiSX1HwCU

small timesave in inverted STT.

I discovered an interesting speed trick with Deku Link. If u hold circle pad to sidehop, let go of L, and press A right before u land to Spin, Deku will spin at max speed. This is useful since it eliminates the startup Deku had when running or spinning, and the timing's not too strict IMO. A couple of notable spots so far are 1) tunnel before Tatl talks to u in front of Deku flower [backwalk, then sidehop spin around corner into Tatl CS] and 2) East Clock Town 1st cycle Day 1 [sidehop spin towards Deku flower].
Sidehop Spin. Kinda has a nice ring to it, don'cha think?

I discovered a new way of clipping OoB using the restricted items trick. Sorry if this is already been found, but again, It wasn't discussed on here.

Anyways:

So what you do is, turn into Zora Link and dive underwater somewhere that has a ceiling above your head (like a tunnel or platform). Perform the RI trick and put on the Deku Mask. Since there is no place for Deku to surface, he will clip through the ceiling above you and be at the same level as the water in the area you're in. This on it's own can skip a few things just by bouncing up through platforms or something.

But I further found something to go along with this. After clipping with Deku, you'll eventually run out of bounces and void out in some area but I figured out a way to equip the Zora Mask before he even starts bouncing. This can let you swim around OoB and could potentially lead to some skips.

The way its done is, once you put on the deku mask, don't press any buttons to speed up the transformation (dont know if it matters but w/e). Then the 1-2 frames Deku starts his bounce, press up and the button for zora mask. If done correctly, you'll turn back into Zora while still being OoB.

I tested this in Great Bay:

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Zora Hall:

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and Stone Tower:

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In Stone Tower, it can be used to get on the bridge with the Eyegore and it's possible to clip OoB under the door with the Garo Master. I think this spot should be messed around with cause if an early Light Arrows was found, that'd be awesome lol

Jump Slash Cancelling with a Mask is possible in MM3D, is the same jump as the extra jump from action swap from bow/hookshot to sword/stick, which theoretically you could "zombie hover" with.
http://youtu.be/DFCFmIHta7c

Weegeechan wrote

I discovered a new way of clipping OoB using the restricted items trick. Sorry if this is already been found, but again, It wasn't discussed on here.

Anyways:

So what you do is, turn into Zora Link and dive underwater somewhere that has a ceiling above your head (like a tunnel or platform). Perform the RI trick and put on the Deku Mask. Since there is no place for Deku to surface, he will clip through the ceiling above you and be at the same level as the water in the area you're in. This on it's own can skip a few things just by bouncing up through platforms or something.

But I further found something to go along with this. After clipping with Deku, you'll eventually run out of bounces and void out in some area but I figured out a way to equip the Zora Mask before he even starts bouncing. This can let you swim around OoB and could potentially lead to some skips.

The way its done is, once you put on the deku mask, don't press any buttons to speed up the transformation (dont know if it matters but w/e). Then the 1-2 frames Deku starts his bounce, press up and the button for zora mask. If done correctly, you'll turn back into Zora while still being OoB.

I tested this in Great Bay:

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Zora Hall:

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and Stone Tower:

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In Stone Tower, it can be used to get on the bridge with the Eyegore and it's possible to clip OoB under the door with the Garo Master. I think this spot should be messed around with cause if an early Light Arrows was found, that'd be awesome lol

What would Light Arrow Early do..?
This glitch is intradesting! Could has many uses

We found this clipping method as soon as Restricted Items was discovered, the transformation at the end is new. So far it doesn't do much except let you hit a switch early in stone tower temple. It would be cool if we could skip the red turnkeys in Great Bay Temple with it though, knowing about this transformation technique

gabyelnuevo wrote

Jump Slash Cancelling with a Mask is possible in MM3D, is the same jump as the extra jump from action swap from bow/hookshot to sword/stick, which theoretically you could "zombie hover" with.
http://youtu.be/DFCFmIHta7c

Now I can finally practice Sewer Skip. Woop Woop :)
Speaking of terminology, my suggestion for the name would be something like Zora Double Jump since Zora is technically the only one that can do this.

Powerstar9 wrote

Now I can finally practice Sewer Skip. Woop Woop :)
Speaking of terminology, my suggestion for the name would be something like Zora Double Jump since Zora is technically the only one that can do this.

No, this is done by all of the 3 forms, Human, Deku sword or Zora, when i found this out i was using Deku Link xD
Of course the reason he used was for the long jump.

gabyelnuevo wrote

yeah AJPirate, that's being known since MM, that was one way you could get to hidden owl without explosives or cheats :P

Ah, ok. Sorry about that.