OoT / MQ Trick Research & Discovery Thread

Poodleskirt's ganondoor with no buffering video here. Gonna try and figure this out myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLQgXnTny7g
Don't know what causes it. I was playing on VC

Here's a method for Song of Time skip in the Forest Trial of MQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YSInwesFG4

There's probably a better way than this but it was all I could do to get it to work at all.

Setup for ice cavern HP without blue fire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUQzX6xUVw

Probably old but...
Obtaining the Gerudo's Fortress Heart Piece without ISG. (Uses a Megaslide...I think that's what it's called, right?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UY9ihTxOYw

More useless junk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0s-i6Y3uso&feature=youtu.be

New trick - A slide OoB hookshot (or other 1st person items) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFY1VomW7m0

current uses:

Ice arrows as adult with 0 keys (in the above video)
Fire Temple boss key early http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4R2nCRxzk
Water Temple vortex room GS without SoT (useful for max% adult) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-8P5vp3-c
New Method for Zora's Fountain GS w/o silver gauntlets (requires longshot) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz1hISqbz4M
GS in grotto near GV without dins (requires longshot)
Deku 1st web skip as adult

I just tried to test out the above trick and this happened: http://youtu.be/GeGei4xBXY0  :P

I know the colors are all wrong but it's because Windows Movie Maker (which i used to compress it because before hand it lagged unbearably) can play but not reformat the codec I used for some reason.

Here's a 5 boss route I typed up. I know it doesn't really belong here but I thought that posting it here would let more people be able to find it.


http://pastebin.com/9qK7Bec4

So what happens if you don't hookshot anything at that point? Do you fall or do you clip back in bounds?

The thing I discovered was my first good attempt to try the trick to see if you could cancel it to fall.

Slowking wrote

So what happens if you don't hookshot anything at that point? Do you fall or do you clip back in bounds?

Only the camera is altered, not link's position.

Messing around with grottos and thinking about wrong warping, I think I've discovered some crazy ass shit.

Just so I don't forget, here's three fairly important addresses found with MHS.

8011B94A is the last "proper" entrance point
8011B966 is the return point for a grotto or special return point (warp songs use this value)
801DA2B8 is the next entrance to load when hitting an exit.

Ok it's like this: When you enter a grotto, a return entrance index is stored in 11B966 to determine where the hell you should end up when you eventually leave. What I've discovered is that when dying and quitting, the value is retained, meaning that if we can enter a grotto in a non-conventional manner and leave it, we can end up at that last entrance point. Furthermore, we can also use warp songs to change which entrance we end up at.

Basically what this means is that in theory you should be able to play Nocturne/Requiem on one file, then wrong warp to a grotto on the second file, and leave it proper to warp to the Nocturne/Requiem spot.

There is one hitch though: when I tested this out via a series of codes, the return coordinates did not match up with the proper warp song coordinates. Will try to figure out why soon.

Sounds pretty cool to me.

Unfortunately... there's no known in-bounds fwww to a grotto.

The exit for getting caught by a guard (not the first time when the cutscene plays) in Gerudo Fortress hasn't been tested, though, and should lead to grottos. One thing though is that when people tested getting caught before, for some reason it took them to the jail cell, which it shouldn't have unless there's something weird about the way getting caught works (or maybe they just messed up the timing or something). The other ww to the grottos is Kak->Shooting Gallery, but it's apparently OoB...

I was going to ask if MM behaves the same way, until I realize we don't get the quitting option on a death. :\

http://www.twitch.tv/everalert/b/331426672

This started happening to me when I pressure jump. Is this new/does anyone know how to make it consistent?

EverAlert wrote

http://www.twitch.tv/everalert/b/331426672

This started happening to me when I pressure jump. Is this new/does anyone know how to make it consistent?

It's just timing the jump well, and that's the best timing you can get.

Lol, if you come from the Deku Tree, a Giant Deku Baba will get caught on the stuff hanging from the side and dismember itself

Discovered how to skip the prescription, thanks to Jarvitz's video.

Get ANY Adult Trade Item, then when you get Zora's Armor perform collection delay (the last dialog box is the one where he says Tunic in red) with the hookshot. Aim slightly up and hold Z.

I'm not sure what you mean. Isn't the item before the prescription an Adult trade item? Should King Zora be unthawed before doing this, and how do you do the Hookshot collection delay?

Kimimaru wrote

I'm not sure what you mean. Isn't the item before the prescription an Adult trade item? Should King Zora be unthawed before doing this, and how do you do the Hookshot collection delay?

Any Adult Trade item as in you can stick a bottle in there.

Bad news. I'm very confident that this glitch is a 1.0/1.1 exclusive. In 1.0, there's a frame where the map, the C-Items, and Navi icon appear before disappearing completely. In 1.2, all three appear at the same time that item collection occurs. Thus, collection delay is most likely impossible.

mzxrules wrote

Any Adult Trade item as in you can stick a bottle in there.

Bad news. I'm very confident that this glitch is a 1.0/1.1 exclusive. In 1.0, there's a frame where the map, the C-Items, and Navi icon appear before disappearing completely. In 1.2, all three appear at the same time that item collection occurs. Thus, collection delay is most likely impossible.

This is correct. This trick is NTSC 1.0, 1.1, and NTSC-J 1.0 only. I don't know about PAL yet. No official VC releases will work.

Is there a video of this?

R.I.P

100% Segmented Team Run


Quick someone make a unofficial N64 save manager that saves backup data from actual N64 carts and not the Controller Pak data.

Kimimaru wrote

Is there a video of this?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzGr-WpZBOs

Greenalink wrote

R.I.P

100% Segmented Team Run

Yeah, we're discontinuing it because the VC route would be slower. It was pretty much dead when wrong warp was found, anyway. We just tried to save it by modifying a few segments, but now it's impossible to save.

Kimimaru wrote

Is there a video of this?

original vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_3Jt0vR5Lw

More Wrong warping crazies.

Aparently, sva discovered that it's possible to Ganondoor wrong warp as an adult from a save warp a month ago by simply pausing the game.

Looked into it myself and I discovered that you can do the same as a child by backtracking to Link's house and pressing start there.

Basically, when you pause the game on certain maps, you can overwrite a important portion of the intro cutscene, causing it to not play. I do not know why it acts differently for child link.

Edit: Forgot to say which wrong warp.

I'm lost. What did sva do? Pause the game after savewarping then did a wrong warp of some kind?