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ZFG wrote

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Great, thank you so much :). I'm getting my whole glitchfest-run kind of planned out as I go and I'm at the shadow temple as a child right now. The first part will be up in about an hour if you're interested.

It feels ironic that I've managed several ESS's, SS-teleport, vineclips etc. without any major problems but I can't make a stupid 'chu megaflip :/. Any tips on that?

Is Shadow Temple block skip/gate clip possible as a child?

For the chu megaflip buffer to the 8th flash roll and then backflip when his sheild is half up.

D U F I wrote

For the chu megaflip buffer to the 8th flash roll and then backflip when his sheild is half up.

I TAS'd it and pressed the R button exactly at the eight flash, then played around for when to roll (not holding forward) and backflip but nomatter how much I tried for a couple of hours, it just didn't work D:. But yea, I guess I'll just have to continue practise :/...


And for the block skip question, yes it is possible. But a bit harder since your sword is shorter, I think.

Make sure you are not playing on the pal version or the chu megaflip will not work at all, If possible i'd suggest playing the japanese version as its got faster text and you can megaflip off chu's.

D U F I wrote

Make sure you are not playing on the pal version or the chu megaflip will not work at all, If possible i'd suggest playing the japanese version as its got faster text and you can megaflip off chu's.

*FACEPALM* I am using the pal version (1.0) <_<... Is there another way to get over there as a child without slingshot or regular bombs? I don't want my shadow early teleport to be in vain!

TimpZ wrote

*FACEPALM* I am using the pal version (1.0) <_<... Is there another way to get over there as a child without slingshot or regular bombs? I don't want my shadow early teleport to be in vain!

I don't think so, sorry :( There is a video on youtube though that will show you how to get the superslide teleport everytime with pause buffering, if you want that i'll give you the link.

D U F I wrote

I don't think so, sorry :( There is a video on youtube though that will show you how to get the superslide teleport everytime with pause buffering, if you want that i'll give you the link.

I think I got it actually, is it this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pkjbOtYGw


Ahwell, I guess I'll have to do something else... Does anyone know about any glitches that only (more or less) can be performed in the royal grave? (where you get sun's song) For my glitchfest TAS :p

No, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mVfwzxUPTI that

D U F I wrote

No, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mVfwzxUPTI that

Oh sorry, I misread you. I have no problem doing neither the superslide nor the teleport with a damage source (other than it might take a while :p). It's the Megaflip over the gap in shadow I can't/couldn't work out...

But yeye, I guess I'll just figure out something else fun to do in the graveyard/kakariko, I need to get the bottle anyways :p.

Ugh, I tried for about an hour last night to no avail. :/ it wouldn't be a problem if I could get that last silver rupee, but I never have enough bombs at that point to pull off a staircase hover to get up. And bombchu hovering is a no go for me. Any tips on button setups/timing for bombchu hovering? I'm playing the GC version, I have slingshot on c left and bombchus on c right. Also, for a staircase hover, where should I place the bombs? Im setting one down against the wall, balkwalking, setting another, walking forward past the first bomb, and backflipping twice. I always get hurt by the second bomb or backflip too soon to stick the hover.

For slingshot hover with chus, make sure you're releasing the seed before taking out the chu.  It should be: load slingshot, backflip, release seed, press bombchu button, press R.

For staircase hoverm the easiest method is to line up with the wall you'll be hovering against with Z, place a bomb, sidehop and place another bomb, then place yourself about in the middle of the 2 bombs (doesnt have to be very precise), then backflip when the first one explodes, then backflip again and the 2nd one should explode.  Here's a demonstration of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQW2zxCx90g

I was just editing thundrios glitchlist and wanted to be shure of something.

When Link clips using the ladder in this video, what is it called and could it be done anywhere?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR6lfDSbQyU

I want to call it "Ladderclipping" or something but idk :p.

Is getting ISG a good idea for beating twinrova's 2nd stage? My crouch stabs don't seem to be fast/ good enough :P

That would probably work but it is very easy to single cycle Twinrova every time without isg. When you hit here with the fire/ice, jump off the platform and press b midair to jumpslash her while she's falling. Then mash b to get the first crouch stab and time the crouch stabs so you stab her when her arm goes down and touches the floor after being hit. There is plenty of room for error this way.

I prefer ISG on twinrova myself because 2 cycling her is one of my biggest fears, and I can usually spare a bomb there, but most people seem to prefer crouch stabs.

well i saw in the new MST jp world record that u can be on the platform with twinrova when u hit her with the ice/ fire. So I would think getting isg off a navi info would potentially be the fastest way, or at least faster than a bomb anyway...

Getting ISG off of navi temporarily pauses the fight, so it would be slightly slower, but fine if you want to save a bomb.  But if you jump to the platform under her on the 3rd fire/ice shot, you might as well just crouch stab her since you wouldn't have much time for ISG.

edit:  nvm figured it out

Couple questions: Is it possible to start a new file with any item on B or is that only in the 3DS version? And when doing the DoT skip, what frame do you jumpslash on? I've died over 20 times attempting it.  >:(

Majora252 wrote

And when doing the DoT skip, what frame do you jumpslash on? I've died over 20 times attempting it.  >:(

I've never had to buffer the jumpslash too many times, so I guess jumpslash on the frame where Link is not quite lined up with the Door but his knees are level with the ground.

|Too late/link is lined up with door. This is the frame you've been hitting B on.|Pause on this frame, buffer B here|Too early (link just got oob)| Beginning of clip|

| indicates separation between frames

ZFG wrote

For slingshot hover with chus, make sure you're releasing the seed before taking out the chu.  It should be: load slingshot, backflip, release seed, press bombchu button, press R.

Actually, you don't even need to load the seed. If you're fast enough you can backflip right after you take out the slinghsot--> backflip (let go of analog stick) bombchu --> shield.

Majora252 wrote

Couple questions: Is it possible to start a new file with any item on B or is that only in the 3DS version? And when doing the DoT skip, what frame do you jumpslash on? I've died over 20 times attempting it.  >:(

That's 3DS only.
For DoT skip you jumpslash on the frame the camera is still in bounds but link is not. Make sure you hold right the whole time after the sidehop or it will not work.
If link has made a noise and you are on the right frame hold forward during the jumplslash instead. :)

OK, thanks Pivot and Bottles. Is it possible to steal the rod as a child so I can RBA with young link?

Yes, stealing the rod is same for child as adult.

And pivotguy, thanks for taking your sig completely out of context >_>

Is there any alternative to bombchu hovering over the platforms on the slippery slope in the 2nd room before Dark Link to get the Longshot as a child? I'm having a really hard time with it.

Maybe you could superslide up the slope?

That's a good idea, don't know if it would work to get him up the slope, but at the top is a ledge that's too high to slide up so there's no way it would get him to the other side.

You can superslide up the slope, but there's no way to get up from there. Your best bet is side flip hovering from the platform closest to the entrance of the room, changing angle off the chus every 2-3 hovers. Should take about 16-18 chus, pause buffering helps a lot. Alternatively you can slingshot hover from the platform that moves up and down, but it would take a lot of chus, probably around 30-35.

Steve wrote

You can superslide up the slope, but there's no way to get up from there. Your best bet is side flip hovering from the platform closest to the entrance of the room, changing angle off the chus every 2-3 hovers. Should take about 16-18 chus, pause buffering helps a lot. Alternatively you can slingshot hover from the platform that moves up and down, but it would take a lot of chus, probably around 30-35.

Yeah, I tried the superslide a bunch of times, but link kept getting stuck under the top platform and getting crushed. Explain the sideflip hover, I don't quite understand. Its the slippery slope under me that stops my hover, wouldn't you still have to be over the platforms of you were sideflip hovering? I have 45 chus right now so that isn't a problem, but when I try to stay over the platforms, I can't seem to make it more 1 or 2 hovers once I'm across the gap. And hovering from the lower platform on the entrance side doesn't seem like it's going to give me enough height to make it to the other side.