MM: Trick Research & Discovery Thread

Or just let roll a bombchu to it.

Highly doubt there's an OOB in that room. There's not much to work with corner wise. I don't really see how it would save time either, at least in the any%.

Yeah, I just checked the room and it has no acute angles and the ceiling seems solid everywhere so there's little chance to find an OOB there.

Infinite Heart Pieces

Trick for 100% STT. Should save a good 15 seconds.

It works on the other fairy chest as well. According to Petrie this is way huge for STT 100% but I don't know the route.

Is this trick new?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYVEMQYN-bA
And is it useful for game time speedruns? Or useful for anything at all?

gamekube64 wrote

Is this trick new?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYVEMQYN-bA
And is it useful for game time speedruns? Or useful for anything at all?

Ya that's old.  It doesn't really have any uses in MM but its pretty good for OoT because you can do a lot of damage with just 1 bomb.

MrGrunz optimized the Fairy Fountain Wrong Warp to 7.

This has inspired me to update the any% route again, and now we're down to 3 bomb shop trips, which I think is pretty amazing for non-tas.

Get past first room in GBT no explosives.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzGAoLIfHYY

Almost a new bottle dupe method for the real bottle slots.  Just use the bottle timestop glitch in dampes grave on the bottle chest after killing the poe and it acts like jianos infinite heart pieces glitch.  Theres a problem though, theres no way out.  C up cancel doesn't work and the stairs are blocked because its considered a cutscene which timestop cancels so you can't enter.  Any ideas to get out?

EDIT: TSDA found a way.  Just don't kill a wallmaster while looking for the flames so it can get you after getting the bottle(s).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAVA-3VdCIg

I have discovered a (probably) useless glitch, but it's weird otherwise. You roll backwards for a really long time. I don't have a video of it (The built in mupen64 avi capture sucks) but, I can describe the frame count.  First, take out a bomb and shield drop it. Roll forward 42 frames before the bomb explodes, immediately after the first frame of rolling, hold back all the way.  Exactly 4 frames before the bomb explodes, press A.  This is probably a failed HESS or something like that, but I thought I would just make sure.

watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2GoF2Gqvwk

I do exactly the same thing at 0:45

the reason, why this happens is, that the bomb gives Link speed, when you roll 42 frames before the explosion. this is the reason, why mega flipping and HESSing works ;)
that speed is always facing the backwards, so when you roll, link takes that speed into the roll. as the speed is facing backwards, link rolls backwards with a lot of speed, but he looses the speed again after a few frames

New stuff?

Did you know that when you're close to a gossip stone, you can start playing ocarina before the instrument reach Link's mouth?
(it may be useless but...)
I was in the pre-swamp area, facing the gossip stone and trying that thing with goron Link. There were, Link, the gossip and a keese.
I don't know exactly how, but I was pressing randomly shield, ocarina B and A buttons. I haven't seen if the keese hit me, I just know that I had hit the stone (and it happened during she was gettin back to normal) then I found myself in Bottle-shield-glitch state.

So I'm going to try it again. See if it can lead to new possibilities.

Hitting the Ocarina and then mashing B next to a gossip stone leads to a timestop, which is probably what you were experiencing.

Yep, that's it.

Reuploaded the real bottle dupe the video properly for ZSR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy7xHO8AxiU

On emulator when you get 170ish Heart Containers the game gets super glitchy. If anyone is bored enough to try it on console, it could have some interesting results....or do nothing.

Jiano wrote

Yeah I forgot to post my updated Stone Tower trick. You just use the stop time glitch(I hate this name) to cross. Also I didn't find the trick, I think ZAR found it.

Actually, it was found by ZSO.

Jiano wrote

On emulator when you get 170ish Heart Containers the game gets super glitchy. If anyone is bored enough to try it on console, it could have some interesting results....or do nothing.

I can confirm it works on console. I have a vid of some effects but my internet is being gay as fuck, so... yeah, it'll be up soon

It's nothing new, just an alternate way to enter the grotto along the way to Goron City w/o hot sexy water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pvSajtaFlE

Most likely this isn't possible, but if there is a way to somehow get a catch, we may get bottle on B.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=omzLeUPSZrc

Bottle on B doesn't do RBA stuff in MM, I heard. I haven't personally tested but yea.

Yeah Bottle on B doesn't do anything but fuck up your ocarina slot. Catching HSW doesn't even do anything.

if there was a way to RBA boss remains, it would be the most epic SB of all time.
it would be just start game, turn to human, get bottle, RBA, wait, kill majora.

Can there be a Fierce Deity Glitch added into the techniques section? There's a good video for it, but with bad quality anyway. Sooooo, can someone add it?

Here's the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACObFcc6fk

Wait, a better one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QkXTACAZr8

We'll add that glitch sometime soon, but right now most of us are too lazy to work on the site and we want to get the more speedrun oriented tricks up first.  FD anywhere has no uses in a speedrun so it'll probably go under misc. tricks, not techniques.

Oh, sorry. I'll try to find a more speed run tricks.

I don't know if you have it or not, but there is a way to get out of clock town on the first 3-day cycle. All you have to do is go to the east clock town guard (as Deku Link, of course), face the direction he's facing usually, go to his right side, then pull back on the control stick. You should pop out from behind him after a few seconds.

For the record we know about most glitches that were put on the web.

I'm actually sure we know them all and probably even more :-\

we need this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjnCMHg8PDs

as deku. it means that we can get lens as deku on first cycle

if as many people as possible could try, that would be awesome