MM: Trick Research & Discovery Thread

GlitchesAndStuff wrote

we need this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjnCMHg8PDs

as deku. it means that we can get lens as deku on first cycle

if as many people as possible could try, that would be awesome

How do you get past the ice in termina as a deku?

Lexkeeta wrote

How do you get past the ice in termina as a deku?

Seamwalk above it, then jump down.

There is no Ice Block during the first cycle. Really the only actors are the grass circles.

Man oh man, I wish I could to the SS/ESS/HSS. They look real fun and useful.

Aki, they aren't hard to learn. I learned alot of MM glitches in one night. general rule of thumb: if Ani can do it, so can you :D

basically, for SS you wanna put a bomb down and be away from it just enough to lake the Grab icon disappear. hold Z+R, and roll on the 7th bomb flash. For me I just mash A while I'm rolling until I'm about to get into slide position and hold it. you can also do it out of backwalking, just shield drop the bomb on the 5th flash and roll on the 7th. same process

To ESS, you can do that out of a SS. IIRC, during a slide, let go of z (still hold R), regrab z, let go of shield, hold ess position, let go of z, should start the ess. Not sure, I could be overly complicating it lol.

Anyways, HESS is the easiest shit if you know the timing. just hold up a bomb, shield drop+roll on the 7th flash, let go of z and push the analog into ESS position. you should start HESS as you stand up. just repress z once it's started.

Thanks Ani! Thanks for that detailed report on them. You even counted the bomb flashes and stuff, I can't wait to try 'em out.

Tomorrow ._.

lol ani wtf

ESS out of super slide: while supersliding, let go of Z, hold the ess position (basically tilt the control stick very slightly diagnally down), then let go of R. Quickly press Z so you don't lose it (It locks your position). If you want to change direction just let go of and rehold Z. You can't wait too long, though (basically, Z is important to hold whenever you're ESSing).

And to make things a bit easier (although it's personal preference, really):
normal SS: backflip right after the 3rd flash (shield drop, don't place it), then hold forward and press A twice (it's hard to describe the timing of the A presses, but once you get, you'll rarely miss).

Backwalk SS: Shield drop after the fifth flash (don't stop backwalking), then mash A for a little bit once you are behind the bomb. Basically, what ani said.

ISG+SS: Place a bomb, then immediately do 2 (that's the key for timing) quick crouch stabs. Press A as Link retracts his sword to get ISG, then hold Z and shield drop the bomb, backwalk a little, and mash A a few times. Once you understand this it's real fluid and consistent, lol.

HESS: Ani described it better than I can

Quickslide against a wall: Super easy. Place a bomb against a wall, backwalk a little, start walking forward and immediately take out a bombchu, press R+A, then mash A a bit.

Quickslide: My worst (other than getting ESS position on VC lol)... start backwalking, shield drop a bomb, backwalk a little more, pull out a chu, start walking forward, press R+A, holding forward, then press A again. The only hard part is that you have to hope the bombchu exploded.

It may seem like lots of practice, but the best thing to do in the game is just play around with them in Termina Field. It's so fun.

those fierce deity vids suck

i made a vid showing it in all 3 versions. can't get better than that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZGc8j6froE

Money farming technique for 100% SS w/ collection delay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t9tflOutTc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7o3VSM3auU

I found this recently

I would like to discuss this because at the moment I'm not sure what it could be used for of if it's useful

it means song of soaring in the first cycle along with beans and some extra heart peices.

you can learn sos without getting the ocarina?

so what happens if you get sos then play it as soon as you get ocarina + sot?

Lexkeeta wrote

you can learn sos without getting the ocarina?

so what happens if you get sos then play it as soon as you get ocarina + sot?

You wont have any warp points so I don't think anything would happen

i just figured something might because of the hidden clock town owl glitch

Lexkeeta wrote

i just figured something might because of the hidden clock town owl glitch

what you mean like in my old video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwT_gOT-kBo

new ESS

edit:

damn, on which drugs were I when I posted this? :-X

here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_k4YRW10BI

MrGrunz wrote

new ESS

Too breif. Moar info

lol grunz means this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_k4YRW10BI

I thought I'd post this for the sake of posting it.

LoZ MM Over Boulder 4 Explosives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lczNFaARh6M

Hey it's better then 6. 8)

On VC if you do a real freeze, like moving the cursor on the SoS menu with only the hidden owl activated (as opposed to freezes where the music still plays or you can pause), you can't do a soft reset (through home) or a hard one. You can't even turn it off unless you hold the button for 5 seconds.

I just found this odd.

Venick409 wrote

I thought I'd post this for the sake of posting it.

LoZ MM Over Boulder 4 Explosives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lczNFaARh6M

Hey it's better then 6. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEt85jeJzxc

:P

MrGrunz wrote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEt85jeJzxc

:P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFH2utJz-ho

:P

Grunz Discovery:

Skip the cut scene where Mikau is walking King Zora style by playing SoDT after you push him onto shore(sometimes you get lucky and can move for a little bit after you get him onto the shore).

Jiano wrote

Grunz Discovery:

Skip the cut scene where Mikau is walking King Zora style by playing SoDT after you push him onto shore(sometimes you get lucky and can move for a little bit after you get him onto the shore).

i hate when he walks king zora style

how was the goron fess not found before?

I hate when some things seem so obvious after they're found lol

As for skip Mikau cutscene, that's pretty rad for any% if you can finish bottle duping in time. But that only seems likely for segmented... unless you can choose no and remain on the same day.

This reminds me... if you superslide through a boss warp and end your superslide, the game is locked in that you cant move or choose yes or no.

And if you superslide with bunny hood on, the ears travel in a circle nonstop, even against a wall lol

Another MrGrunz discovery:

After playing NWBN to open GBT, pause right after the song finishes, then pause buffer pulling out the ocarina. Play SoDT and it will skip the cut scene where the turtle pops up.

Jiano wrote

Another MrGrunz discovery:

After playing NWBN to open GBT, pause right after the song finishes, then pause buffer pulling out the ocarina. Play SoDT and it will skip the cut scene where the turtle pops up.

beast

But for both it has to be day to work.

Yes.  In fact, it works for a fairly large class of cutscenes (eg, it works for position-triggered cutscenes as well), but only with a day-to-night transition, and only if the transition interrupts the action (so no giants scene skips, unfortunately).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwhCJWfP2A

Grunz says it's not possible to clip with isg, but if one of you can get it, we might be able to get a faster wrong warp with 7 or 9 explosives (depending on length).