OoT3D: Trick Research and Discovery Thread

mzxrules wrote

Edit: That reminds me, if you set a FW point at entrance Link's house on start up as child, can you death hole ww there and start boss rush?

corneliab wrote

Beats me. I can't seem to use Deku Nuts there and trying to move around in one of those semi-fixed camera areas in both complete darkness and with hindered controls is a pain in the ass.

When you death hole ww, you cannot "talk" to your bed, it seems that this function is disabled, so you cannot neither take a nap nor start the boss rush

Pedalpowertoast wrote

Uh....im sorry corn but how could you miss my vid? Youve been wasting your time explaining alot of old stuff :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yi7XUitEBM

How could I have missed it? Maybe it's because I don't follow your channel, you don't seem to tag your videos, and your videos aren't popular. Yeah, that could be it. Or it could be that, judging from your post history, you've only posted that video once prior, and in a thread unrelated to this one. How could I have missed it... come on now.

Besides, I wasn't trying to pass forest temple as a child and its boss key skip as "new". Obviously it was possible given both the nature of death hole ww and that I used an old technique to bypass the door. This was done out of my own curiosity, and I hadn't seen covered in this thread. Most of my "explanation" was in response to claims that the game should've supposedly crashed.

1.Ok so why not follow my channel? (JK)
2. If you look at other vids you can see them missing too. The reason being that youtube removed the option for others to see them because of somekind of abuse. (I do use them)
3. Any ideas how i can get popular :'(

"Besides, I wasn't trying to pass forest temple as a child and its boss key skip as "new". Obviously it was possible given both the nature of death hole ww and that I used an old technique to bypass the door."

If so, why bother explaining it so indepth? (needing to use the other BK skip, describing the CS etc.)

I admit I made a mistake of not posting my vids to many other threads. I'm sorry.

Pedalpowertoast wrote

If so, why bother explaining it so indepth? (needing to use the other BK skip, describing the CS etc.)

To establish a context for people who may be unfamiliar with the specifics of things? I try to be thorough in my explanations- this is a tendency. Hell, I posted a multiple-post thread on Gamefaqs talking about death hole and wrong warping to an audience of people where I would be lucky if even 5% of them read it through.

This is a really dumb tangent btw.

Just read it. Amazing stuff. Consider creating your own website :D anyway I agree, lets just end this.

I am going to share my setups for RI warps in the next few days. I will begin by stating that I combined sidehopping with holding and letting go of items at the right time. I then at least try to either pause buffer to the right frame of RI FW or just wing it and go for it. Idk how consistent this can become because it feels like it can't be expressed with numbers.

Forest Medallion CS skip setup: Target the wall near the gate, move to the left corner and roll until you can't move. Then backflip and sidehop left into the wall. Then sidehop right, backflip twice and neutral roll after holding your shield. Then sidehop right and RI FW at the edge of the warp.

Played around with RBA and a few other things.

I was able to shield before collecting the eyeball frog from King Zora, but haven't been able to pull bombs.

With a bottle on B, if you fail delivering the eyeball frog, the B bottle will revert back to a deku stick. When I FW warped to the Fishing Pond, it reverted to I think it was a blank button instead.

does it have the same effect as on n64 when you shield before the eyeball frog?

No. You can just pull the shield out for a frame.

but do you still get the eyeball frog early?

You can't get the zora armor in place of the eyeball frog, but I'm not sure about doing it the other way round.

guess we should test it.

holy crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHhhRax1nKY kinda useless but still cool.

Was playing through different cutscenes on 64, and I discovered a chest where the graveyard heart piece is. Inside it was...
Heart Piece #38 =p

To get to it, store the main entrance to the Graveyard and DHWW to it. Thanks to Fox for confirming it on the 3d version.

I read corn talking about it on like gamefaqs or something so I added potential ways to get there to my grotto doc. :p

Now what happens when you drop bugs into that extra dirt patch in goron city?

I found a way to skip the block puzzle in MQ Forest Temple. Sadly, it requires the longshot and it is very difficult. If you clip through the corner of the wall to the left of the first blue block at the right spot, Link will be able to grab the hookshot pillar underneath the ground. But it is very precise and I need to figure out an easier method for it.

mzxrules wrote

Was playing through different cutscenes on 64, and I discovered a chest where the graveyard heart piece is. Inside it was...
Heart Piece #38 =p

To get to it, store the main entrance to the Graveyard and DHWW to it. Thanks to Fox for confirming it on the 3d version.

This has been documented for quite some time. I was talking about how you could get this in this version weeks ago, even.

me and r0b found a possible 101st skulltulla it was a failure sadly :(

corneliab wrote

This has been documented for quite some time. I was talking about how you could get this in this version weeks ago, even.

I wouldn't be surprised if I read about it and forgot it.

Small thing that's probably already known: You can do Ocarina items with any quest item, like Zelda's Letter, the Claim Check, Magic Beans, etc.

I find it a bit easier than having to use Wind or Bottles.

Also, although it's pointless, you can reach the (unloaded) Kokiri Sword maze by backwalking off of the roof of Link's house with the Hover Boots. I'm sure somebody already found that one, too, though.

Can you explain the method of OI for those quest items? It could help bust any%.

Nook wrote

Can you explain the method of OI for those quest items? It could help bust any%.

It's exactly the same as the other methods. Just pull out a quest item just before Link puts his hands down.

Also, pulling out a quest item while L-Targeting and holding the control stick in a direction other than forward causes Link to pull it out facing the wrong way. L-Targeting again as soon as Link puts the item away causes off-center L-Targeting. I don't think this has any uses, though.

I like to home buffer until the explosion almost looks black with a little orange then mash the button with the item zelda's letter,claim check,etc.

Important question: Do Zora River or Lots' o Pots blackscreen when Death Hole Wrong Warping?

Zoras river black screens and "lots' o pots" warps to spirit temple.

To warp into lots o' pots you need to take hyrule castle->courtyard.

New Deku Tree B1 skip discovered. It's possible to get jumpslash recoil with a deku stick while falling, and you can use the antigrav to land on the ledge. You can web clip if you target while performing this trick, if you don't target, the web clip will not work.

Im new here, but I wanted to post that the first boss key skip in the oot3d page is not obsolete. If you wish to fight phantom ganon as a child, you must do so with that method

I know that it was already posted as so a few pages back, but I just want to put a list down on how you should do it.

1. Death Hole Wrong Warp to castle market using FW and OI
2. Go to temple of time
3. Appear in front of fire temple, make your way across room to leave the fire temple
4. Appear in front of the forest temple boss room, kill self or re-enable bottom screen through OI to save & quit
5. Enter forest temple, set FW
6. Make sure you have the boomerang. You might be able to do this with only the slingshot, but boomerang is recommended
7. Go to left side of the poe room, TSC through the left side of the pillar.
8. Move left, allign self with pillar across room
9. L-walking, walk backwards and jumpslash forwards to fall to the unloaded basement
10. Follow Video and roll in the Up-Left direction.
11. Look up. The sharpest and narrowest stairway above you is parallel with the tunnel to the boss door. Allign yourself with the right side, a little farther than the actual stairwell
12. This is the tricky part. You have to stay in an invisible wall. too far left, you get in the room, and have to go backwards until you can try again. too far right, you fall into the void.
13. Keeping yourself alligned with the hall above, use the boomerang to aim down to see if there is floor there. if there is, go that far, but no further.
14. Repeat until you look up and can barely see the hall above. find where the hall ends, and stop there.
15. roll forwards and a little left to enter the loading zone.

If done right, you should be in the boss room! Time to go save a girl who didnt need to be saved, make a sprout think you are a teen, and otherwise screw up the story.



Now, all I need to do is find the warp to the nocturne cut scene. would someone kindly tell me where that is?

misterb1998 wrote

Now, all I need to do is find the warp to the nocturne cut scene. would someone kindly tell me where that is?

For deathhole or FWWW? Deathhole uses kakariko entrance, im not sure if others work.