WW Tricks and Glitches Discussion

guys I gotta go back to WW this new breaks are awesome!!! congrats to paraxade ;D

Great job for this skull hammer skip! But can we skip FF2 or the skull hammer itself in FF2?

EDIT: I just found a way to skip skull hammer in FF2. I'm uploading the vid on yt.

Majora MIM wrote

Great job for this skull hammer skip! But can we skip FF2 or the skull hammer itself in FF2?

EDIT: I just found a way to skip skull hammer in FF2. I'm uploading the vid on yt.

Been done a while ago now... Skull Hammer is completely skippable now.

KlydeStorm wrote

Been done a while ago now... Skull Hammer is completely skippable now.

Anyway here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEvS972WV-k

I did it in FF3 but it should work in FF2. Sorry for the mistakes, I recorded it without precise route.
As you can see, doing this in FF3 cause a strange gamecrash I don't know what do the message on the top of screen mean.

yep, nice job but FF2 without skull hammer has already been done. It'd be weird if we said skull hammer was skippable but we forgot about the very first spot you're supposed to use it, which also happens to be by far the most skull hammer-heavy area. guess it's nice to have it vidded somewhere tho.

:o You guys are awesome!

I've been lurking this forum for a while but never bothered to make an account until I found out you broke WW.

Can anyone link me to a video or something about EMS because i've seen it mentioned but don't now how its done. Also where do these ideas for glitches come from? I'd love to join in and try to help further break WW but I have no previous experience with glitching and have no clue where to start.

Dashiamo wrote

:o You guys are awesome!

I've been lurking this forum for a while but never bothered to make an account until I found out you broke WW.

Can anyone link me to a video or something about EMS because i've seen it mentioned but don't now how its done. Also where do these ideas for glitches come from? I'd love to join in and try to help further break WW but I have no previous experience with glitching and have no clue where to start.

It is kind of hard to keep up with all that's been found without reading all pages of this discussion. From what I know there are no videos on EMS because it crashes the game in so many spots. If you want to know how to do zombie hover etc., feel free to ask me or visit Klydestorm's channel as he discovered most of this, but also don't forget about Paraxade0.

Oh cool thanks, I've checked out alot of the videos posted in this thread recently. I'm not great at button mashing and so can only zombie hover for a split second.

Does anyone know what new things are being researched or need to be discovered right now?
AFAIK we don't have a ToG boss key skip yet? Does anyone think that is feasible?

Or are we trying to skip it completely since we can get the bow from the Fire/Ice arrows?

Dashiamo wrote

AFAIK we don't have a ToG boss key skip yet? Does anyone think that is feasible?

That will waste time because you have to get the boss key to get out to the area where the boss door is.

Oh ok, i knew that... ::)

Been a while since i've done ToG.

I wonder about:

-What happen if you let KoRL go in a Giant Squid area (with damage to get out of KoRL) then swim and get back on him. (just a question I thought about, I don't think this would have any use)

-What happen if you do a WW dive when forest water expire. (the answer is nothing more than WW dive I think)

-What happen if you try to lift Jalhalla without bracelet.

-What happen if you try to lift a heavy object with delay glitch on... Maybe there would be a way to lift heavy objects without bracelets...



EDIT: Hy Dashiamo! Welcome on ZSR, for now you can just think to new uses of hover and delay glitches.

Thanks, just to be sure. Delay glitch is to do with activating the Wind Waker when forest water timer expires right?
It causes Link to be in open chest mode so you can clip into walls?

Also i'm not sure how to do this but I think we should put some of the new glitches on the Wind Waker homepage as right now there isn't much there compared to OOT or MM.

Superswim something like 1,5 case east out of the map cause an instant drowning.

Dashiamo wrote

Thanks, just to be sure. Delay glitch is to do with activating the Wind Waker when forest water timer expires right?
It causes Link to be in open chest mode so you can clip into walls?

Yeah, it also allows you to superswim with the wind waker.

Majora MIM wrote

-What happen if you try to lift Jalhalla without bracelet.

Tested, you can't lift Jalhalla.

Ok, so we can forget about heavy objects and bracelets stories.

And what happen when you active delay glitch during helmaroc king fight, then zombie hover to skip the battle?

You go into a warp, and Storage can't store a load point, so nothing.

Dashiamo wrote

Oh cool thanks, I've checked out alot of the videos posted in this thread recently. I'm not great at button mashing and so can only zombie hover for a split second.

Does anyone know what new things are being researched or need to be discovered right now?
AFAIK we don't have a ToG boss key skip yet? Does anyone think that is feasible?

Or are we trying to skip it completely since we can get the bow from the Fire/Ice arrows?

We are just trying to polish up speed tricks in various dungeons, but a big thing that at least I'm working on is ganon's castle early; also requires a new method of skipping the trials--but I've almost gotten that out of the way--. Here's some hover advice: touch the end of your thumb to the end of your index finger, then position your thumb over B and your index finger over A. After that simply flex your arm and practice.

Who was it that's trying to find a new ganon trial skip? If you could eliminate the hookshot from the trial skip process, could we just skip hookshot all together by hovering in WT?



edit: but then there's the matter of molgera

Shattered_ wrote

Who was it that's trying to find a new ganon trial skip? If you could eliminate the hookshot from the trial skip process, could we just skip hookshot all together by hovering in WT?

Yes and no. No it couldn't be skipped in the WT because it's needed to beat Molgera, but it would then be skippable once early ganon's tower is dicovered. If you want to know what the low% items are look at animeowzerz channel, the only item that he missed skipping was the Cabana deed. Also, note that in an any% skipping some of the items ani did--like the deku leaf--would waste too much time.

Trials skip, no Ice Arrows or Hookshot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQCVun58ZeE

However, something big, you can ledgeclip off pushable objects, not just unmovable ones.

KlydeStorm wrote

Trials skip, no Ice Arrows or Hookshot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQCVun58ZeE

However, something big, you can ledgeclip off pushable objects.

This is something I was trying to prove a while ago.

Wait, so you can ledge clip off a bomb? Did you use the delay glitch to slightly clip first or was it solely the bomb?

Light Arrows skip!!!

also:

Razor wrote

This is something I was trying to prove a while ago.

no offense, but it seems like you've thought of every other trick that gets found, so why haven't you found anything?

Dashiamo wrote

Wait, so you can ledge clip off a bomb? Did you use the delay glitch to slightly clip first or was it solely the bomb?

No Storage, just normal ledgeclipping but with a bomb, or any other object, movable or not.

KlydeStorm wrote

No Storage, just normal ledgeclipping but with a bomb, or any other object, movable or not.

Oh cool, that's really awesome then. Does anyone know how many forest waters are needed for all current skips?

Edit: just saw light arrow skip, how do you guys find so many breaks so fast?

Well, the two hammer skips in the Earth Temple require a forest water each, and there's another one required for Light Arrows skip, one for Cabana Deed skip... so four unless I'm forgetting something. Sucky, but meh.

How many bottles are we planning on getting? I figure it's slower to get deku leaf early so we get 1 from entering DRC. And isn't there an easy one to get in a sub while sailing from DRC to forest or something?

With 2 bottles and warps it would require 3 individual trips to forest for water I think. (1 for ET skips, 1 for deed skip and 1 for light arrow skip)

You can only have one forest water at a time.

Paraxade wrote

Light Arrows skip!!!

also:

no offense, but it seems like you've thought of every other trick that gets found, so why haven't you found anything?

I get easily frustrated with testing, I test a lot of stuff at once, and I was gone on vacation. I hope to discover ganon's tower early in a few days so I can hopefully call that my own. My zombie hover needs practice so I can't test with that either. I just hope that the glitches I'm coming up with now nobody else has the same ideas for.
EDIT:
Only two forest waters necessary should be FW BK skip and skip Phantom Ganon. If Gohdan is skippable then the bow is obsolete too.

Paraxade wrote

You can only have one forest water at a time.

Oh... Well now I feel a bit stupid :P

In that case route planning will be difficult with needing to get water aprox. 20 mins before it's needed  :-\
So what are the current theories on early Ganons tower?