BiT Research Topic

I think I'd have to disagree about the time stone thing though. You can walk where the time stone normally goes, yes, but you only have a very slender walkway to do so; about the length of the rail that the mine cart travels on. For whatever reason, it appears to be that the rail is flat in this unloaded area.

I'd accept that, as you can also walk along the "crawlspace" floor too.

has anyone tested BiT warp with the underwater save statues at floria? and also maybe the opposite using the loading zone trick while BiT, might place link somewhere in the swimming animation (not helpful but interesting)

Edit: I just tested anyway, nothing useful and link doesn't swim :(

Here's a vid explaining BiT. Hope fully it'll pull in more runners.

http://www.twitch.tv/testrunner/b/306311907

Can you upload to YouTube? That would be nice to get rid of ads and it would be more public.

I'll have to make a youtube account... but I guess i could.

EDIT: meh, the vid is too long. I would have to split it, which kind of seems like it would defeat the purpose. If I make a shorter vid, I will upload it.

Perhaps someone with a Director's account could upload it. I don't have one unfortunately or I would.

I want to make a more concise vid at some point. I'm not fully satisfied with it. I forgot to have a good save to show BitWW and thus has a bunch of dead time for traveling >_>. Although if someone chops out some of the middle, it'll prob be nicer, dunno. I give permission for people to post the vid on youtube for me if they want.

i have a youtube account without time limit if that could be useful.

its up
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al4upuRjwCk

Should I record and post a youtube video of a full harp run? Seems like it would be nice for some people to see it and have a go to source to recommend people to see.

Abahbob wrote

Should I record and post a youtube video of a full harp run? Seems like it would be nice for some people to see it and have a go to source to recommend people to see.

I would like to watch a full harp run. If you do it, would you skip sailcloth?

I figure I would, as I'm not looking for a full game. I could make an alternate video for cloth route.

The BIT info is a little unorganized. What statues have not been tested yet?
Only bird statues can be used to warp you on the land below, right?

I dont think anyone knows which ones have been tested.
Yes, only bird statues.

Maybe it's time to start a list for each bird statue on Skyloft(all 4), and each area.

I currently screwed up my game with some codes(nothing to do with BIT) and want to start over. I'm about to find out if BIT will help me keep my Hero Mode or not.

I think we tested all the statues.
At least I DID have a long list of all the warps in a text file earlier.
I had entered all the information found from in the thread, and just tested the rest myself.
If there is a warp that isn't mentioned anywhere on the ZSR pages, it is most likely not a useful warp. But feel free to double check everything.

BiT Absolutely will not work for me. I've tried about 50 times, and I'm positive I'm doing it right. I must have tried reseting on every different frame after hitting Continue and it absolutely refuses to work. I have no idea why.

EDIT: Apparently BiT doesn't work if you're in the past. I went back to the present and it worked.

I may eventually make an organized list of every map and statue, even if it isn't important and say which have been tested or not. But someone feel free. I'm busy with school stuff and haven't posed in a while. My last run was 11:45 to the emerald and I did warp in wrong place in skyview, so I quit

Interesting. Wonder why being in the past stops you from wrong warping and/or the title screen.

I guess I should've mentioned this in my vid. You cannot activate BiT in some rooms. It's not fully clear which rooms. Such places include the waterfall cave and Demise.

I would like to get this known to hopefully get people testing again. If you open a door then right away load a file. You will be placed in the map that the door leads to. But XYZ of the file being loaded. That limits it down to any map on skyloft. And Skyloft itself. Now if we could just find a save statue in the king's room..or if whatever reason the warp is still there for skykeep(doubtful though). Also I BIT. Then when i was exiting a room i loaded a new games file. It skipped the opening cutscene and placesed me on the other side of the gates. I'm guessing that would most likely be useless. But for the hell of it i killed myself. Pressed continue. It spawns me at my last savepoint. Which i guess either doesnt exist or its the starting cutscene. So I just froze.

See, all of this has been tested. The loading a new file and loading a room really wouldn't help, because it still requires a file to BiT, and we start with all blank files. But keep working on that line of thought. We really haven't gotten much with loading during cutscenes or transitions, so you're on a good roll

Yes you do start with all blank files, but when going threw, skipping the sail cloth, you cant access the king's room later on. So that means for every statues we have unlocked up to that point, its possible an XYZ would end up in his room. We have no need for any other files.But your most likely right, I've already gone threw most the statues unlocked. One got pretty close but not close enough..

Just thought I'd mention, you also can't BiT at the first room in Skykeep, not that it would be of any use really.

If you start a new game while exiting a door on the eastern part of skyloft. You will load that side skipping the cutscene. You will be on the other side of the women blocking the bridge. There is an invisible barrier across the whole bridge. You can then go to bed and sleep till night. So nighttime on a free file..I couldnt find any use with it though..

Holy shit I just deleted part of skyloft. Okay so what I did was went bit and saved over a file that has obtained the eye to activate skykeep cutscene. I then went over to where i would put eye in. I then loaded file, waited about half a second and pressed A to put it in. I spawned. No crash. Everything was silent. You cant hear link running. If you jump off things it makes this thudding sound as if you had iron boots? I dont know. So i went up over bridge to where the temple was. it got deleted. Its gone. Wtf. Does this mean if differnt cutscenes are loaded as you load a file. Simmalar outcomes are possible? Also the file I loaded was saved to the bird sequence, allowing me to fly around this version of skyloft that is partially deleted. Going over where the load zone for skykeep would be does nothing, either that or i keep missing the right spot.

The goddess statue disappeared? I think that happens normally after you beat Skykeep. Does that mean the game thinks you already beat it? If you leave and reenter or S+Q is the Goddess Statue still gone? Does that mean you can go to Faron and start the demise sequence, thus skipping Skykeep all together?

I think its something more to do with the cutscene failing to play. Its a fake skyloft your loaded into. So leaving the area and comeing back loads normal skyloft, the correct version. S And Q will save you there. But the game acts as if your in the same point storywise. But yes it was a fresh file that had not left skyloft yet. But no flags are hit saying you made it here. So even if we where in a version skyloft that didnt appear till the end of skykeep. I doubt going to sealed grounds would continue the story to after skykeep, but then again you never know..

Also. If you click load and at the last second before it loads, you walk into a loading zone. You will load that file in that area. Would it be quicker to just run in BIT to godess statue entrance load file into there. Pulling sword? Instead of saving in BIT loading the file then running to the statue?

Hmm, very interesting. If it works, it probably is a little faster, as you don't need to save at the bird statue. I'm worried that the trick may be very hard to pull off tho, for the amount of time saved (a couple seconds maybe?). What's the timing window like for this loading trick?