OoT / MQ - Question & Answer / Trick Help Thread

Pheenoh wrote

That trick actually doesn't work as child. Cafde whines constantly about not being able to get that GS in Max% Child. :P

Can't you clip into the stairs in that room and land on solid ground? Maybe hover to the door?

DekuScrub wrote

I'd like to try to experiment with slides like Z-slides and A-slides, but I've never done one, and so the instructions of how to do them are a bit obscure. This is from the dreamhosters ZSR page for the Z-slide:

"First roll into a source of damage like you would do when you want to Megaflip or Superslide, then hold forward at the end of the roll, and the very first frame that you can let go of the shield but still have Link block the damage, let go of Z and R. Now you must press Z every other visual frame."

The problem is that part about the "very first frame that you can let go of the shield but still have Link block the damage, let go of Z and R" part. I would like to see an m64 (from snapshot) of these slides so I can get a feel for what the frames are. Incase there might be desyncing issues, I am using Jabo's Direct3D8 1.6 for Video, N-Rage's Direct-Input8 V2 1.80a for Input, and the RSP plugin is just called 'RSP emulation Plugin'.

Why I really want an m64 and not just a video or text explanation is because I don't have any save data that has bombs or chu's on my computer...

I could give you an m64 of the slides but it would be using Jabo's Direct3D6 since 3D8 does not work for me. Also, you should be using the TAS input plugin. You can find it at TASvideos.

Edit: Here is a link to the m64 and st I made. Hope it helps you.
http://www.mediafire.com/?i6c2xz4j16iiv78

Thank you, the m64 will be quite helpful. :)

EDIT: wow, I will need a lot of practice before I ever manage to start one of these slides... but the m64 is still going to be quite nice to have.

are there any more specifics to the stealing the rod glitch? because if its just tap A and mash B in shallow water i feel like it should have worked one of the many times I've tried it. I don't mind having a hard time with things like the DoT skip or vine clipping because they have really specific angles, positions and button presses, but this seems so simple and i can't get it. how much does the position of link in the water matter? is it doable anywhere where he pops out of the water and does a little fall into a standing position? am i supposed to start mashing B right after tapping A, and stop mashing B when the rod is cast? or should I wait to start and/or stop mashing B slightly?

You want to press B on the first frame the water splashes from link coming out of the water, if you have trouble with it with mashing you can pause buffer to this frame. If you're casting the rod like normal you need to be deeper in the water.

oh, no wonder why i havent done it yet then. I've always attempted it in the shallowest water possible that link is still swimming in xD.
Edit: got it :], thanks for the help :D

I get a lot of randomness with me ESS's. It's creating a lot of trouble for me for reaching the town before night.

When I hold as I'd like I get completly random, sometimes more left, sometimes more right even though I hold a little to the left.

When I hold very right I get like 1/3-1/5 lefts and vice versa (approx, I havn't kept any statistics here)


Any help with that?

im also having trouble doing WESS to skip the owl, i dont actually know what to do, tried looking it up but can't find it

so far, i know that in the water i am supposed to hold up then spam L, but whenever i come out of the water i just stop, it is clearly working in the water though

You want to hold slightly to the right (not down right). You'll want to get comfortable with ess position before trying it in runs/races, or I guess you could pause to get the right position. If you get a slow wess you probably went through too much water.

Okay, yea I guess I hold straight down or something... I'll practise with holding right.

But I'm also having trouble with superswim. No matter how fast I mash Z I can't get it right... I'm using a gamecube-controller so it's extra hard but there's nothing I'm missing? How many times a second do I have to mash it approx.?

dont use z for superswim, its much harder than just mashing up on the analogue stick repeatedly to keep speed. you can also steer yourself with this method which is nice

zodiac wrote

dont use z for superswim, its much harder than just mashing up on the analogue stick repeatedly to keep speed. you can also steer yourself with this method which is nice

You can steer yourself with both methods. The analogue one is better for gamecube controllers though, since it is pretty hard to mash those triggers quickly.

Quick question regarding BotW chu's...

I've been trying to get this trick for a bit, but it seems like the videos on it are kind of outdated? I know the video that Cosmo uploaded a while ago isn't the same way he does it now, as back then it involved a spin attack, a different starting point, and what looks like different reference frames that he uses to know when to drop, etc.

Is that video still the best way of learning it? Or is there something else (that I haven't found yet in the forums or youtube) that someone can link me to?

Thanks in advance

Postman wrote

Quick question regarding BotW chu's...

I've been trying to get this trick for a bit, but it seems like the videos on it are kind of outdated? I know the video that Cosmo uploaded a while ago isn't the same way he does it now, as back then it involved a spin attack, a different starting point, and what looks like different reference frames that he uses to know when to drop, etc.

Is that video still the best way of learning it? Or is there something else (that I haven't found yet in the forums or youtube) that someone can link me to?

Thanks in advance

This should be the method that Cosmo uses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssd1y32wKxM

Awesome, thanks! That was exactly what I was looking for.

Is there anyway to get both mirror shield and silver gauntlets as child link? As far as I know, you can get silver gauntlets normally, but in order to get the mirror shield you would have to steal a key from the child side of the temple, which would mean no silver gauntlets. And you can't hover to the mirror shield from the silver gauntlets chest.

Luke wrote

you can't hover to the mirror shield from the silver gauntlets chest.

False actually, there are many ways to get to the Mirror Shield as a Child, even without Hovering (which you can do from DC) Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr8XPoS3IR0

Should help =)

Well I've hovered over there before, just thought you had to have an extra key.
and what is DC?
EDIT: nevermind, figured out you have to hover up there two times, the first time so you can jump to the hand and play zelda's lullabye. but still out of curiosity, how do you set up a hover as child link from the outside, to get to the mirror shield?

Luke wrote

Well I've hovered over there before, just thought you had to have an extra key.
and what is DC?
EDIT: nevermind, figured out you have to hover up there two times, the first time so you can jump to the hand and play zelda's lullabye. but still out of curiosity, how do you set up a hover as child link from the outside, to get to the mirror shield?

Here's a way to hover to the mirror shield as child http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh_Pl9Hzw_I.  Its a massive and difficult hover so I don't suggest trying it. 

And DC stands for desert colossus in this case, but it usually refers to dodongos cavern.

Im plannin to start speedrunnin OoT, any good advices where to start?

Staarree wrote

Im plannin to start speedrunnin OoT, any good advices where to start?

Forest escape, Door of time skip and early bombchus are very helpful

Child Dungeons and learning the fastest routes to them.

This should also help, it's aleckermit's OoT Speedrunning 101: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFhDz-3wr3k

does anybody know where i can get zelda jap wad? and how i can istall it? i hear people say that u dont install it normally like u do with any other wad. please clarify this if u know the answer.


thanks in advance.

weonx wrote

does anybody know where i can get zelda jap wad? and how i can istall it? i hear people say that u dont install it normally like u do with any other wad. please clarify this if u know the answer.

thanks in advance.

OoT is called Zelda No Densetsu: Toki no Okarina in Japan. I don't know how much more I'm allowed to say other than you have to region change your wii.



I  have a question on the Bridge Megaflip.
(One of the) used help vid's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeyLf8br3eg&feature=related

My attempt:
http://www.twitch.tv/primat91/b/307864034


I've done several variations and tried for about 3 hours. I get this result or grab the ledge with some methods. When I actually do megaflip I won't reach... Any tips on this?

TimpZ wrote

OoT is called Zelda No Densetsu: Toki no Okarina in Japan. I don't know how much more I'm allowed to say other than you have to region change your wii.



I  have a question on the Bridge Megaflip.
(One of the) used help vid's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeyLf8br3eg&feature=related

My attempt:
http://www.twitch.tv/primat91/b/307864034


I've done several variations and tried for about 3 hours. I get this result or grab the ledge with some methods. When I actually do megaflip I won't reach... Any tips on this?

You need to shield drop the bomb immediately so that it lands a bit to the side.

ZFG wrote

You need to shield drop the bomb immediately so that it lands a bit to the side.

I got it :D! Thank you

Anyone see this guy around before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZjH0E0ra6o&feature=g-u-u&context=G23b186aFUAAAAAAAUAA

Some pretty impressive stuff.

Door of Time skip issues.
No doubt its been referenced time and time again, but I can't figure out what's wrong.

I'm using OoT disc which contains the master quest. But not playing on master quest version.

I backflip into the corner. C-UP to align myself up with the angle. Hold Z while in C-UP to keep the angle.
I do the slight tilt into the corner with the control stick to start a sideways roll, then mash A and move the control stick into the diagonal corner to get the side jump.
I clip through. I pause buffer (not touching any other buttons) until link disappears from view, but he does not make a sound.
I press pause, then hold left and mash the B button. Still holding left all the while.

Yet for whatever reason, he keeps popping out on the wrong side of the door. Why does this keep happening if I'm pause buffering for the perfect frame, I get the angle to clip through, and I keep holding left on the control stick? I have done this roughly 40-50 times with the same result. I have hard time thinking I'm getting that "false frame" 40 times in a row.

You should also be holding left after the sidehop before you clip, as well as after clipping.  If you're doing that and you still can't make it, I'm not really sure why it wouldn't work.  Can you make a video?

That was my issue apparently. I was not holding left throughout the pause buffering.