OoT / MQ - Question & Answer / Trick Help Thread

Hey everyone,
Im having some issues doing the bomb hover outside of the spirit temple. Im trying to get to the silver gauntlets chest and superslide using hover boots over to the mirror shield but when im bomb hovering to get to the silver gauntlets chest and try to change the angle, i cant seem to change it. much help is appreciated :D

Toward the bottom of the page should help you with angle changing: http://zeldaspeedruns.com/oot/tech/hovering

Alright, can somebody help me with Ganon Door? I've tried for frickin hours on this, and I've gotten pretty much nothing. I've tried various methods, and I've come close a couple times, but still, something always goes wrong. Is there any good video that explains how to do this?

Edit: Ive tried some more, and the only problem I have now with getting it is that whenever I try to do OI at the warp, it doesn't work. Link just pulls out his sword and then I go in the warp. However, if I do it anywhere else, I can get it easily. Can somebody help me here?

Make sure you're spacing your backflip properly to land on the edge of the warp. Usually videos use setups that perform neutral rolls, in which case you won't want to touch the control stick at all while holding Z and then roll. Poodleskirt has a good video on twitch (or YouTube?), which helps indicate if you did it incorrectly or not.

Alright, something fishy is going on here. I can finally get to the door almost every time, however, whenever I do the setup to get to Ganon's Castle, it flashes white, indicating I did it right, but then it warps me to a black screen, where I can hear the rocks falling, but then after a few seconds it will play the sound that plays when you get crushed by the ceiling. What's going on now? I'm on VC if that helps...

(P.S. When this black screen comes on, none of the buttons work.)

Hornlitz wrote

Alright, something fishy is going on here. I can finally get to the door almost every time, however, whenever I do the setup to get to Ganon's Castle, it flashes white, indicating I did it right, but then it warps me to a black screen, where I can hear the rocks falling, but then after a few seconds it will play the sound that plays when you get crushed by the ceiling. What's going on now? I'm on VC if that helps...

(P.S. When this black screen comes on, none of the buttons work.)

You are indeed getting the wrong warp, but this means the previous cutscene you watched was incorrect for the warp to Ganon's tower. The most convenient cutscene to watch is the one that plays right after you enter the Deku Tree. I would guess that you reset the game in between watching that cutscene and attempting the wrong warp, which means the intro cutscene is the last cutscene you saw (and that doesn't work for the Ganon's Tower ww). All you have to do to get to Ganon's Tower is make sure you watch the correct cutscene before attempting the warp.

I'n glad you're getting the warp consistently though. :D

Thanks so much! I finally got it :D

Now for getting past Gerudo Valley early... I can't seem to get it. Is there a video or something that explains which frames you have to do things on to get the bombchu megaflip? I've tried some and I haven't gotten it.

You can pause buffer the Cuckoo Jump and save your explosives, which I've started doing recently.

Megaflip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj5rGOhXM2s

Pause Buffered Cuckoo Jump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqEjFjxU59A

Thanks again :) Now I can do pretty much every useful trick in the game! (except Superslides :/)
I'll find a video on how to get to the desert colossus by myself :P

Why is it so easy to frame advance with pause buffering?

I have been wondering for a while now, has anyone ever found a glitch where you can use items indoors? I had always wanted to use my stuff inside houses :D

With Windy B you can use Farore's Wind indoors, but that's about all I know regarding that. I don't think there'd be much of a use for being able to use other items anyway. I'm pretty sure there's a Gameshark code you can use, though.

I've been trying to do the swordless dot skip recently, and i've been having this problem with it.
I c-up my angle (the r in return on the right seam of the right pillar, and i also do the backflips) and do the sideroll + sidehop combination to get out of bounds. I release the Z button during the sidehop and i get the frame that i should (atleast i think) to do the swordless skip. But in all of the videos i've watched, i get a different frame after i start holding the Z button again once I am out of bounds. I'm not sure if i have a bad c-up angle, if i'm not letting go of Z during the sidehop at the right time, or if i'm not putting in the correct inputs. The inputs that i currently put in are just; letting go of z during the side hop, and holding down Z when i get the first frame out of bounds. The videos i have watched said to hold left on the second frame you see Link's hair, but unfortunately i have never gotten this frame. If anybody has any idea what i'm doing wrong, all help would be appreciated as i am still fairly new with speed running and glitches.

Thanks for any and all help.  8) 

I would suggest using one of the C-upless setups: this one or this one. That way you will be able to cancel out the angle being incorrect, because C-up can be quite inconsistent.

I've never had trouble 1 cycling Gohma until recently for some reason, and it costs me a minute or two in races. I do a jumpslash with a Deku Stick before the fight, and at the start I do the following: throw a Deku Nut and do power crouch stabs asap. For whatever reason, Gohma gets up before I'm able to hit her a third time. So... does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Kimimaru wrote

I've never had trouble 1 cycling Gohma until recently for some reason, and it costs me a minute or two in races. I do a jumpslash with a Deku Stick before the fight, and at the start I do the following: throw a Deku Nut and do power crouch stabs asap. For whatever reason, Gohma gets up before I'm able to hit her a third time. So... does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

You could throw a second deku nut after the first crouch stab to make it easier (and I believe it's required if you are jumpslashing for the final blow). Though you might already be doing that :P

Never thought of that; thanks! That should make my Gohma more consistent.

Hiya!

I currently running on a GC version of OoT, when I try to wrong warp from Deku to Ganon's Tower it puts me in a Black endless loop while Link is falling down over and over again. I can hear that things are crumbling, I can't see Link or the HUD. Or am I doing the Wrong wrap wrong?
Any advice?

Your last cutscene value is wrong.  You must have a certain cutscene, such as the entrance to deku tree cutscene, as your last value, and the title screen resets this value.  So just watch the deku entrance cs, or I believe the hyrule field cs works too.

iMighty wrote

Hiya!

I currently running on a GC version of OoT, when I try to wrong warp from Deku to Ganon's Tower it puts me in a Black endless loop while Link is falling down over and over again. I can hear that things are crumbling, I can't see Link or the HUD. Or am I doing the Wrong wrap wrong?
Any advice?

The exact same thing was happening to me for a long time. Basically, just make sure you don't save anytime in the Deku Tree, including after you do the gohma double kill. If you do, you can fix it though. Just go out of the tree, save, reset, then when you start up again, save in your house. Then just go through and do the WW.

If I remember correctly, all you need to do is go to your house and pause then get out and refrain from pausing until you're back in the Deku Tree.

Sorry for the double post.

I'm redoing my Max % Child run and I'm wondering how to get the Master Sword after I RBA for the tunics and other stuff. I need to get the Kokiri Emerald first so I can sell the Bunny Hood to the Running Man in order to get the Zora and Goron Masks, though. Is there another way to get to Ganon's Castle?

Kimimaru wrote

Sorry for the double post.

I'm redoing my Max % Child run and I'm wondering how to get the Master Sword after I RBA for the tunics and other stuff. I need to get the Kokiri Emerald first so I can sell the Bunny Hood to the Running Man in order to get the Zora and Goron Masks, though. Is there another way to get to Ganon's Castle?

I believe the correct order of doing things is to get zelda's lullaby first, rba odd potion for the stones (you get locked out of zl if you do this first), then go through the trade quest for the bunny hood (might put this before odd potion rba). You'll be to be playing GC, VC, or emu (pj64 specifically) to be able to hover into the potion shop to trade the mushroom for the potion. This way you get the masks RBA out of the way before you have to go to deku at all.

Can I actually do half-milk RBA and get the Kokiri, Master, and Biggoron Swords? I think this will solve my problem.

to do half milk RBA with zora mask you need a value of 26 which would be Master Sword (2), Giant's Knife broken flag (8), and Deku Shield (16) so you would need the master sword in the first place to do it.

Thanks! I ended up restarting my file, but I didn't have too much done anyway so it wasn't a big deal. I read the page on Half-milk RBA on the site and it confused me even more. According to it, you just have to have a full bottle of milk in your inventory. That's how I'm reading it, at least. I feel that page, along with the whole RBA page, needs to be rewritten to give a "this is what you need to do to get this" style summary. The data showing the memory addresses and all are fine, but they should be put on a separate page in the RBA section, similar to how the WW section is organized.

Kimimaru wrote

Thanks! I ended up restarting my file, but I didn't have too much done anyway so it wasn't a big deal. I read the page on Half-milk RBA on the site and it confused me even more. According to it, you just have to have a full bottle of milk in your inventory. That's how I'm reading it, at least. I feel that page, along with the whole RBA page, needs to be rewritten to give a "this is what you need to do to get this" style summary. The data showing the memory addresses and all are fine, but they should be put on a separate page in the RBA section, similar to how the WW section is organized.

Yeah, it confused me when I first was trying to understand half-milk RBA. You don't need a bottle of milk in your inventory, but you need a VALUE of milk for the game to read. Milk is 26, so if you are pointing to something on the equipment where each bit represents an item, you will need a value of 26 in binary before doing the RBA. This will always include MS when RBAing swords, so you need MS to do half-milk RBA along with some other specific sword/shield values.

Ah, I see now; thanks! The wording is very confusing on that article, especially this part: "When you empty the contents of a bottle, the bottle script will first check to see if there is a full bottle of milk (item value 26) in your inventory"

By that I mean it checked the proper inventory slot for item value 26 (Full Milk). It should be obvious that if you're dropping a fish and you have full milk in another bottle it's not going to magically turn into a bottle of half milk.

Either way, I changed that part to make it clearer hopefully. http://zeldaspeedruns.com/oot/ba/halfmilk-rba

Hey guys
I need help with the ganadorf wrong warp glitch. I want to do this method :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79J7N0C7JH4
My problem : I went to the column an position myself.Then I do a sidehop .Afterwards I press 2 times A that link is rolling twice llike in the Videolink.
Then I backflip once. After this backflip i backflip again and do the Ocarina Item glitch with my bottle . But the portal still grap me to the deku tree and the cutscene starts.

But if I go 2 little steps foreward between these two backflips (in the video its the positioning 0:09 ,where i do these steps) and do the ocarina Item glitch. The portal is activated and im still in Gohamas Room,so it worked.
Now the problem is that I cant use the adjustments which are mentioned in the video because I did these 2 steps.( I think thats the reason why they arent work).

Sorry for my bad english-.-
I hope u guys understand my problem :D