MM: Trick Research & Discovery Thread

I guess since this is a trick discovery, it should be mentioned here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iiwa58Cwb_0

Based on the Curiosity Shop stuff you found with SoT storage, what would happen if you did the same at the Magic Hag's Potion Shop when retrieving the red potion to deliver? I'd like to help discover something interesting in Majora's Mas, as apparently the door softlock was already known...

Basically this:
Start the sidequest for helping Koume in the swamp
At the bottom of the floating flatform with Kotake's shop on it, get ISG from the sign.
Climb up the ladder
Hover OoB and store SoT
Right before getting the potion, Select yes to SoT dialouge
???

New "wrong warp" discovered by tatakiwaru here. Is this even possible on U?

That was extremely confusing. I'm wondering what the hell just happened.

mzxrules wrote

New "wrong warp" discovered by tatakiwaru here. Is this even possible on U?

That's kinda cool, so it resets your entrance to the area? Also, I tried it on U and it isn't working...

Edit: yeah Japanese only but this trick is really interesting, the only thing that can interrupt the warp to the telescope it seems is the OoB... and that gives you the wrong warp

I'm interested in this video. Dunno where the timer is from, and if that's the result of a wrong warp, then maybe testing it in different areas yield different results.

Jeville wrote

I'm interested in this video. Dunno where the timer is from, and if that's the result of a wrong warp, then maybe testing it in different areas yield different results.

Isn't that the goron race?

Razor7581 wrote

Isn't that the goron race?

It is the goron race. that's also a really interesting video...

An interesting language difference I found today:
I was testing out using SoT storage in the opening cutscene and found that in the languages English, French and Spanish, the stored text box comes up after the first box of text in the intro, just like in the USA version.  However, in German, it appears that the first line and the second line of text are just one flowing dialogue box because the stored text appears after the 2nd line of text rather than the first.

Despite me seeming to have lots of time after hitting yes to saving, I've not been able to advance the game to clock town early with this on any version. One version remains to be tested though which I cannot test myself, the GC Japanese version...

GlitchesAndStuff wrote

An interesting language difference I found today:
I was testing out using SoT storage in the opening cutscene and found that in the languages English, French and Spanish, the stored text box comes up after the first box of text in the intro, just like in the USA version.  However, in German, it appears that the first line and the second line of text are just one flowing dialogue box because the stored text appears after the 2nd line of text rather than the first.

Despite me seeming to have lots of time after hitting yes to saving, I've not been able to advance the game to clock town early with this on any version. One version remains to be tested though which I cannot test myself, the GC Japanese version...

I'll go ahead and test this for you by getting a ROM and testing it on emulator. I'll edit this post with any results I end up with.
EDIT: Nope, nothing happens on GCN JPN either and the SoT text box appears the same time it does in English, French and Spanish.

so... umm... I did SoS storage in the bay gossips grotto and the menu almost came up and when I respawned I was back where I entered termina field in front of SCT. It was something similar to the JP one but there was no apparent storage. What I was intending to do was store SoS and use the gossip stones to stop time and activate the SoS menu to see what would happen
EDIT: nevermind that grottos always spawn you there ;-;

Razor7581 wrote

Isn't that the goron race?

I forgot that it has a timer. :P Can somebody test this using SoS to exit to different areas with? It does mean using cheats to enable c-buttons in the race...

Romani's archery in 0 seconds, exceeding 9999 points in the Swamp Archery, they are here.

Jeville wrote

I forgot that it has a timer. :P Can somebody test this using SoS to exit to different areas with? It does mean using cheats to enable c-buttons in the race...

1. Leaving the area in any way will result in the timer disappearing.
2. The timer finishes when the first goron crosses the line, so if we even could get the timer somewhere else it would either crash due to no goron or just never end. neither of these would be particularly useful.

Old seamwalk outisde of lot cave that ZAR found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me22-YAJ5kI

How exactly is that a 1st cycle skip?

of what use is this. obviously not a 1st cycle skip looks like someone wants views

crispy wrote

of what use is this. obviously not a 1st cycle skip looks like someone wants views

It was just a joke lol
hooray for defense

I'm not sure if any of this is new, but I've uploaded some videos lately:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD41B033A935967BB

Sorry if it's all old stuff - I don't have many sources for new MM awesomeness other than some YouTube subscriptions, and I just recently found this forum.

I'm pretty sure that method of moon tear skip and the reuse bottles are new. Very interesting stuff

New? Lulu HP method
http://www.twitch.tv/para20/b/324745562

apparently this is actually old but since i could not find a video of it ill just keep it here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALQjdlDoCUk

Don't imagine anyone ever using this for a speedrun or anything. Also, I'm not 100% sure that gap is otherwise not possible to cross, but I've tried for like, literally an hour using many different methods, and save states, so it would definitely seem that the (lag from the) Guay gives a boost. I hope someone else will try to make the jump (on a console, without the help of the Guay of course).

Ha, cool. Does that work with other Link forms? Maybe it could be used to finally get ice arrows in any% no ISG.

enterim there's no need for ice arrows in any% no isg with the 2 bomb bk skip

Ok I've been trying to do it for a long time now and I can't seem to Song Storage at all. Link just falls without pulling out Ocarina, is there any video or something that explains it, I've looked all over the forums and there's no instructions I have seen that tells you how to do it.

You need hold to a direction before pulling the ocarina out i think.

Yeah, I've tried holding directions and he just waddles or he just drops with pulling out the ocarina.

basically you hold a direction and mash ocarina. to my understanding you need to press ocarina twice within a certain amount of frames.

Me and Glitches&Stuff found how to do the new hookshot/bow oob glitch for mm. The setup is actually really weird and was a pain to find. Here is a guide I wrote to help people do the trick: http://pastebin.com/QQj8K3mf

Here are videos of where this is applicable:

Mirror Shield Early: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukvCuHTcVo
New Elegy Skip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0JEmcQvAw4
STT Compass Early: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaBNtgogBBY
STT Light Arrow Block Skip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwmuBi9GZw8
STT Updraft Room Skip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh1SPAhoO1I
STT Boss Key Early: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7HRqCryrkc
Woodfall Boss Key Early: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5wdtFqcq6U

Snowhead Boss Key is also possible but I wasn't in the mood to go and make a video of it.

Found this setup for the Snowhead BK skip using a superslide. I didn't find a video about this so I hope this is something new:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t87GdLCvdGc&feature=plcp

Something weird: catch something in a bottle and use it to stop time near a gossip stone. "Stop" will appear on your b button and you can play ocarina notes and control link at the same time. You can play songs, but most of them don't work properly. However, if you enter a loading zone while a song is playing, it gets stored.